I’m not saying they don’t work but a price jump to $275 is gouging.
I will not defend Nike or other shoe companies but we ‘athletes’ create it. As it stands in an Ironman to buy speed, super shoes are likely the best return for $$$ spent. Double the price and most would still buy them - me included- takes my 12.06 to 11.59. 
- worth every cent
A few years ago you could buy good fast competitive shoes for $100 to $150.
Now the market is up $100+ for good fast competitive shoes.
You can still buy good competitive shoes for $150. If anything, today’s $150 shoes are faster than the $150 shoes pre-4%, because they’ve benefited from tricke down tech. Even more so adjusted for inflation. Plates and PEBA are now available for ~$150 msrp.
The existence of $250 shoes did not make the $150 shoes worse. It made them better.
Hello SheridanTris and All,
The new rule, to take effect immediately, requires that running shoes have a maximum midsole thickness of 40mm and no more than one stiff carbon plate. This rule appears to grandfather in the Nike Vaporfly Next%s, which has been a popular shoe of choice among elite marathoners and many top triathletes.WT Rules (22-11-22)
Rule 6.4 (e)
Shoes:
(i) World Triathlon follows World Athletics’ Shoe Regulations applicable to road events
for all the triathlon and its other related multisports as described in 1.1.a);
(ii) Customised shoes, as defined in the World Athletics’ Shoe Regulations, are
permitted to be worn in competitions following approval from the World Triathlon
Technical Committee;
(iii) Development shoes, as defined in the World Athletics’ Shoe Regulations, can be
used in all World Triathlon recognised events, with the exception to
the elite competitions of the World Triathlon Championship Series events,the elite/u23 competitions of the World Triathlon Championship Finals,the elite/junior competitions of the World Triathlon Sprint & Relay Championships, the elite/u23/junior/para competitions of all the World Triathlon Multisport Championships,the World Triathlon Para Championships,the Olympic Games and the Paralympic Games
with the conditions that:
â— the specific shoe is already on the list of Shoes Approved by World Athletics
as a development shoe, and
â— the triathlon event where the shoes to be used is held within the approved
dates as on the list of Shoes Approved by World Athletics;
â— the shoe manufacturer or the athlete must submit the request to World
Triathlon Technical Committee to be able to use the development shoes.
(iv) Athletes are subject to random shoe control before, during, or after any competition.
For any shoe that cannot be identified, each piece of information (and maybe the
shoe itself) will be required to be sent to the World Triathlon headquarters for
verification within 7 days after the competition it was worn.
(v) In the official results, the athletes under shoe review will have a note (Uncertified/
UNC) added to the results footer notes. If the shoe is confirmed as legal, the note
will be removed. In any different case, the athlete will be disqualified.
World Athletics Competition Rules (Book 2)
https://www.worldathletics.org/...uments/book-of-rules
C2.1A (eff 1-1-2021)
Sets out to balance the following principles (wrt shoes):
fairness health & safety performances (records) integrity - primacy of human endeavour over technology innovation
An ‘Existing Shoe’ with a sole greater than the maximum thicknesses set out (Appx 3)
any Athletic Shoe used in Applicable Competitions:
10.6 Shoe must not contain more than one rigid structure (e.g. plate, blade) and
must not contain any embedded ‘sensing or intelligent’ technology
must have a sole with a maximum thickness as set out in the table in Appendix 3 [they mean the sole’s thickness has a maximum limit)
10.2 and 10.3 (edited) The thickness of the sole will be measured at the centre of the forefoot and the centre
heel (upper surface of insole to plane of lowest points of the outer, including grooves, ridges, indentations or protuberances).
Appx 3:
Maximum thickness of the sole:
Road Events (Running and Walking) = 40mm
Mountain and Trail Races = Any thickness
That’s a good point
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How long until we see e-assist bike Tri Worlds, like they did for MTB?
well, already LD tri many bikes not UCI legal. ebike world is growing big. I can see it spill into local sprints maybe. But lets say what long distance tri is really. Swimmers who can deal with the bike, and hate the run. Bikers who can deal with the swim, and hate the run.
Lets not forget earlier this year for the swim, ryf using a grey area wetsuit.
I came to this sport a broken down powerlifter, where there was a lot of ‘gaming the system’. Just recently governing organization took away a move that made big inflated ego numbers.
https://youtu.be/-cuUyISz7Do
…not sure i agree with his arguments all gamers will adjust and still be at the top level.
Let us not forget another person who practically killed the sport of boxing, floyd mayweather who would game the system with his unique style.
Innovations in cycling, running, swimming improve efficiency by reducing friction, reducing the energy that is lost to the environment.
Adding a motor to the bike changes the other side of the equation by adding additional energy. Shoes have some sort of springyness that is capable of absorbing and re-emitting energy like the suspension on a mountain bike, but it is still energy that is input from the athlete. Things will get tricky once we start thinking about storing the energy from regenerative braking…
IMO triathlon had to follow athletics as eventually shoe companies will stop making high stack shoes and those who have a stockpile of thicc shoes will have an advantage. Are shoe companies used to higher production volumes than cycling companies who make triathlon specific frames, shoes, handlebars, saddles, and clothing?
Interesting discussions……for history sake, Blue Ribbon Sports made a handful of prototype marathon shoes back in the early 70s known as moon shoes. They were worn by several runners in the Portland Marathon….one being a friend of mine. The shoes never made it to market. One pair is under glass at NikeHeadquarters. My friend ended up selling his pair a couple of years ago on auction for close to $12,000 USD. So the prototype advantage shoes are not new.
Interesting discussions……for history sake, Blue Ribbon Sports made a handful of prototype marathon shoes back in the early 70s known as moon shoes. They were worn by several runners in the Portland Marathon….one being a friend of mine. The shoes never made it to market. One pair is under glass at NikeHeadquarters. My friend ended up selling his pair a couple of years ago on auction for close to $12,000 USD. So the prototype advantage shoes are not new.
how about these now worth $100,000 banned shoes:
https://www.si.com/track-and-field/2019/11/15/puma-shoe-upended-1968-olympics
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