Good, it’s about time we return to racing and away from snowflake everyone wins mentality. Forces other athletes not to sand bag as you can still place. Would still like to hear from these 2 women on what were they thinking
https://www.slowtwitch.com/News/Flora_Duffy_in_comeback_win_at_Tokyo_Olympic_preview_7381.html
you lost me at snowflake. grow up.
I can already tell you what they were thinking.
-racing for 1st meant nothing as they had no AQ ability. Everyone knows GTB is faster runner.
-their “showcase†for discretion spot was done when they + Duffy built an easy 2 min gap.
-they “training run†paced away from everyone in the front group on the run shoulder to shoulder.
DQ these two for this but ITU selectively overlook TUE use and “contaminated meat” excuses??
DQ these two for this but ITU selectively overlook TUE use and “contaminated meat” excuses??
This is the world we live in. Follow the money.
I shared this in the ITU discussion thread, but I think this is a pretty solid take on what went down… In terms of what they were thinking, my guess is that they weren’t, and probably weren’t aware of the rule and probably should be… I was watching the race from the trainer, and just hopped off for the last mile of the race, and my first reaction when they crossed the line was shit, when they linked hands and crossed the line, realizing that whether there was or wasn’t a DSQ, it was going to be a shitstorm because of the rules as they are written…
Guys would never do this. That’s totally sexist, but I think it’s true.
DQ these two for this but ITU selectively overlook TUE use and “contaminated meat” excuses??
Wow, haha, so true actually.
They’re brothers. Doesn’t count in my book.
sadly this pretty solid take is wasted on deaf ears to those who ignore logic and reason.
Guys would never do this. That’s totally sexist, but I think it’s true.
Scott Tinley and Scott Molina tied purposely at least once back in the day. They agreed during the run to share the first and second place $. I’m pretty sure Frank Shorter and Bill Rodgers did the same and Shorter tied for first with Kenny Moore in the '72 Olympic marathon trials.
If that no long happens, what does that tell us?
https://www.triathlete.com/…-line-together_95394
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/...inham-Triathlon.html
I’m not sure the point you’re trying to make here. is it that the decision would be different if it were men, or the Brownlees? Both of the races in those links were not ITU events, so you’re talking apples and oranges in terms of rule enforcement… We can debate the merits of the rule until the cows come home, and to whether contrived ties are good or bad sportsmanship, but ultimately, the rule is there, it’s clear, there’s no grey area around what went down in terms of fitting to the rule as it was written, so the officials made the only call that they could (and even then, it wasn’t a decision they took lightly…).
As an athlete, I once planned a contrived tie in a track meet as a teenager, me and another guy in the steeplechase had dropped the rest of the field, and the top 2 in the race qualified for the championship meet, so with a couple laps to go, it was clear that we would both qualify, so we agreed to cruise (since we both had other races that afternoon) the rest of the way and finish together… Over the water barrier on the last lap, he attacked me and caught me sleeping and ran away to the win (I got my revenge at the championship meet, where I made sure to drop him from our chase pack with a lap to go…). I see nothing philosophically wrong with a contrived tie, it’s just that the rules forbid it…
DQ these two for this but ITU selectively overlook TUE use and “contaminated meat” excuses??
It’s also worth noting that the ITU no longer makes their own rulings on doping infractions (announced early this year), they have outsourced to an independent group to make such rulings to prevent possible conflict of interest situations… So while that may not change past decisions, it’s a really positive move, that more sports should follow…
sadly this pretty solid take is wasted on deaf ears to those who ignore logic and reason.
If you’re referring to the triathlete article, it’s a pretty lazy take. The underlying premise of the article is that the reason they tied is to somehow cheat the system and both get the gold medal. As brooks and I have both pointed out, it’s pretty easy to set up the system to eliminate ties. Even if you allow ties, there’s no Olympic gold medal at a test event. prize money can be split. If there are points on the line, those can be split rather than full first place points to both. etc…
the 2 of them had a clear lead over Flora. They’re on the same team. So their race goals were accomplished when they knew that Flora wasn’t coming back to them. If they want to shut it down and moonwalk across the line, so what?
https://www.triathlete.com/…-line-together_95394
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/...inham-Triathlon.html
I’m not sure the point you’re trying to make here. is it that the decision would be different if it were men, or the Brownlees? Both of the races in those links were not ITU events, so you’re talking apples and oranges in terms of rule enforcement… We can debate the merits of the rule until the cows come home, and to whether contrived ties are good or bad sportsmanship, but ultimately, the rule is there, it’s clear, there’s no grey area around what went down in terms of fitting to the rule as it was written, so the officials made the only call that they could (and even then, it wasn’t a decision they took lightly…).
As an athlete, I once planned a contrived tie in a track meet as a teenager, me and another guy in the steeplechase had dropped the rest of the field, and the top 2 in the race qualified for the championship meet, so with a couple laps to go, it was clear that we would both qualify, so we agreed to cruise (since we both had other races that afternoon) the rest of the way and finish together… Over the water barrier on the last lap, he attacked me and caught me sleeping and ran away to the win (I got my revenge at the championship meet, where I made sure to drop him from our chase pack with a lap to go…). I see nothing philosophically wrong with a contrived tie, it’s just that the rules forbid it…
He was responding to the guy who said that men would never do this.
sadly this pretty solid take is wasted on deaf ears to those who ignore logic and reason.
No, but I do ignore a take which tells me up front that it will “eviscerate any arguments stating otherwise”; sorry but that’s for me to decide!
Good, it’s about time we return to racing and away from snowflake everyone wins mentality. Forces other athletes not to sand bag as you can still place. Would still like to hear from these 2 women on what were they thinking
https://www.slowtwitch.com/...ic_preview_7381.html
You literally have a website that is called coupleofathletes.com about you and your newly wed wife and how you’re bonding, but you’re calling them snowflakes… They are roommates, best friends, and just crushed everyone in the race. They’d dunk all over you. sit down and shut up
after looking at the website, Synthetic does need to sit down and shut up!!! good one emantell…
oh this is glorious!