Sorry.
The former major league slugger Jose Canseco accidentally shot himself in the hand at his house in Las Vegas on Tuesday afternoon. Canseco told the police he was cleaning his gun in the kitchen when it fired, shooting a finger on his left hand.
I’m surprised it took him this long to shoot himself.
It’s frightening that this guy:
Is allowed to own a gun.
Not being a gun enthusiast how does this happen so frequently? Seems like around here there are as many stories in the paper about folks accidentally shooting themselves cleaning guns as there are people intentionally shooting someone. When my son had his appendix out last fall there was a little girl in the room next door who was now a paralyzed because her dad shot her in the neck while cleaning his gun at the kitchen table. Is there something tricky about telling if there is a bullet in a gun?
Not being a gun enthusiast how does this happen so frequently? Seems like around here there are as many stories in the paper about folks accidentally shooting themselves cleaning guns as there are people intentionally shooting someone. When my son had his appendix out last fall there was a little girl in the room next door who was now a paralyzed because her dad shot her in the neck while cleaning his gun at the kitchen table. Is there something tricky about telling if there is a bullet in a gun?
Nope not difficult or mysterious at all. I believe it’s the same complacency most people put into driving or doing all manner of daily activities. It’s the same level of attention that allowed me to watch a woman drive her car into a 9’ concrete wall while texting going up a ramp at maybe 5mph…across my lane as I was heading down the ramp! People are thinking about different things other than the task at hand. Or say seeing a fellow skydiver walk into a prop on a Twin Otter because he was preoccupied talking to the pilot. People do dumb stuff every day…with cars…with themselves…with guns.
Nothing tricky about it at all. I was marksmenship instructor in the Marine Corps for quite a few years and saw this type of incident (loaded gun not the self shooting) all the time. It was always for one of two reasons, the person “thinks” they know what they’re doing and does things “their” way instead of the instructed way, or the person really does know what they’re doing but got distracted and missed a step in clearing their weapon.
We had a saying, there is no such thing as an accidental discharge, only a negligent discharge. If you know what you’re doing, and if you’re paying attention to what you’re doing negligent discharges do not happen.
Nothing tricky about it at all. I was marksmenship instructor in the Marine Corps for quite a few years and saw this type of incident (loaded gun not the self shooting) all the time. It was always for one of two reasons, the person “thinks” they know what they’re doing and does things “their” way instead of the instructed way, or the person really does know what they’re doing but got distracted and missed a step in clearing their weapon.
We had a saying, there is no such thing as an accidental discharge, only a negligent discharge. If you know what you’re doing, and if you’re paying attention to what you’re doing negligent discharges do not happen.
Absolutely. The first step in handling or cleaning a weapon is to check to make sure there are no bullets in the magazine or the chamber. You check again and then you start cleaning. And even then, you never point the weapon at anyone. Anyone who “accidentally” shoots a gun when cleaning was careless to begin with, and probably mishandles the weapon at other times.
Doesn’t sound like it felt very good for Jose at all.
We had a saying, there is no such thing as an accidental discharge, only a negligent discharge. If you know what you’re doing, and if you’re paying attention to what you’re doing negligent discharges do not happen.
Do you think this is a bigger problem nowadays? I have a friend who has guided bird hunts for a long time and recently stopped because he felt it had become too dangerous because of hunters not safely handling their guns.
Doesn’t sound like it felt very good for Jose at all.
Hence my apology.
At least Gareth didn’t shoot his own finger(s).
FIFY
Absolutely. The first step in handling or cleaning a weapon is by pulling the trigger to check to make sure there are no bullets in the magazine or the chamber.
We had a saying, there is no such thing as an accidental discharge, only a negligent discharge. If you know what you’re doing, and if you’re paying attention to what you’re doing negligent discharges do not happen.
Do you think this is a bigger problem nowadays? I have a friend who has guided bird hunts for a long time and recently stopped because he felt it had become too dangerous because of hunters not safely handling their guns.
As to this Q, I think it’s a “bigger problem” in the sense that there are more people now than ever before interested in hunting and guns in general AND there is greater media focus and more media outlets looking for “news.” Since the invention of firearms and people handling them there has been negligence, but add more inexperienced people to that equation along with shorter attention spans and as posted above more careless/speedy firearm interactions and you’re asking for trouble.
FIFY
Absolutely. The first step in handling or cleaning a weapon is by pulling the trigger to check to make sure there are no bullets in the magazine or the chamber.
Uh, No. Please. No.
Greg
Jose’s offspring (just sayin’).
FIFY
Absolutely. The first step in handling or cleaning a weapon is by pulling the trigger to check to make sure there are no bullets in the magazine or the chamber.
Uh, No. Please. No.
Greg
Well for some pistols, you release the slide by pulling the trigger. Of course the first step should be to remove the magazine, remove any ammo, put ammo in another location separate from where you are cleaning.
In general, I think people hit on some of the causes, but some additional ones.
FIFY
Absolutely. The first step in handling or cleaning a weapon is by pulling the trigger to check to make sure there are no bullets in the magazine or the chamber.
Uh, No. Please. No.
Greg
Well for some pistols, you release the slide by pulling the trigger. Of course the first step should be to remove the magazine, remove any ammo, put ammo in another location separate from where you are cleaning.
In general, I think people hit on some of the causes, but some additional ones.
“Cleaning my gun” is sometimes a euphemism for “fucking around and got shot, but don’t want anyone to know”
FIFY
Absolutely. The first step in handling or cleaning a weapon is by pulling the trigger to check to make sure there are no bullets in the magazine or the chamber.
Uh, No. Please. No.
Greg
Well for some pistols, you release the slide by pulling the trigger. Of course the first step should be to remove the magazine, remove any ammo, put ammo in another location separate from where you are cleaning.
In general, I think people hit on some of the causes, but some additional ones.
“Cleaning my gun” is sometimes a euphemism for “fucking around and got shot, but don’t want anyone to know”
Ding … Ding … Ding… Winner
+1
Just another example of how having more guns makes us less safe. Furthermore, It’s crazy to think that with the risk of a gun unintentionally going off, the NRA scum bags want more guns in our schools! Imagine that; more guns in schools would cause students to worry about a gun going off in addition to the the usual student worries like taking tests. And don’t get me started on the open carry idiots who want to carry guns into the same place I buy my toilet paper and wine. Get rid of the fuckin guns. I hope that the NRA and the 2nd amendment burns in hell.
I hope that… the 2nd amendment burns in hell.
There’s a way to get that done.
Have at it.
Just another example of how having more guns makes us less safe. Furthermore, It’s crazy to think that with the risk of a gun unintentionally going off, the NRA scum bags want more guns in our schools! Imagine that; more guns in schools would cause students to worry about a gun going off in addition to the the usual student worries like taking tests. And don’t get me started on the open carry idiots who want to carry guns into the same place I buy my toilet paper and wine. Get rid of the fuckin guns. I hope that the NRA and the 2nd amendment burns in hell.
Must be an off cycle day for your meds program.