Time for a new frame

…and I’m torn. Anyone have some input to convince me which one to buy?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Focus-Izalco-Chrono-TT-Time-Trial-Triathlon-Carbon-Road-Bike-Frame-57-5cm-/140629635128?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item20be2df038

or

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3k-Carbon-Triathlon-Time-Trial-TT-Bike-Frame-Fork-56cm-/180720233791?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item2a13c3ed3f

can I vote for neither?
the $585 is a disaster

the Focus one actually looks not bad, but then it isn’t that cheap either =)

I’m super biased but i’ve got to agree with jackmott here. you could do a lot better for the price of the Focus and I don’t want to get into the no name $500 frame debate.

If you’re considering an unbranded/no-name frame, check out the unbranded Planet-X Exocet (or if you don’t mind paying $100 extra for a company backing the product, just get an ACTUAL Planet-X Exocet).

Well I do not know why the $500 dollar frame is a disaster as I just rode this exact frame all season and PR’d several times. Not saying it was all bike because I had a lot of training in there but the bike is fast and I think worth the money for sure.

I did however just pickup a Trek Speed Concept 7 to replace it just because I like have design and decals on my frame and I couldn’t argue with the reviews and such of the SC’s.

I’m open to suggestions.

used carbon on ebay=sketchy. Ive seen to many broken frames that were bought off ebay come into the shop i work at to ever trust a used carbon frame off ebay

can I vote for neither?
the $585 is a disaster

the Focus one actually looks not bad, but then it isn’t that cheap either =)

Jack is right…Dangit.