This is legal in NFL.
It is not legal by WADA.
Good to know that NFL is anti doping…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ7O9NFKEfY
That’s not “why.” It’s a result of not being a signatory.
That’s not “why.” It’s a result of not being a signatory.
NFL is not a signatory because it has no problem with doping - doping is accepted and part of football. Looking at NFL’s policies and how it act, it looks like doping is more than welcome.
Sweet Jeebus!!!
What the hell…
Kept waiting for a sign that this was a joke/satire video, or that the guy was a comedian.
I consider myself a little more open minded about performance enhancers. Never going to, because I’m afraid, but I’d like to know what it’s like after going through a cycle, or a doping protocol. Just the thought of what is possible with some injections is objectively pretty interesting.
But watching this…
This video may be responsible for someone’s death.
That’s not “why.” It’s a result of not being a signatory.
NFL is not a signatory because it has no problem with doping - doping is accepted and part of football. Looking at NFL’s policies and how it act, it looks like doping is more than welcome.
Totally agree. They want doping because it makes a better show on NFL primetime, but can’t publicly support it because then every parent of aspiring high school kids will be shooting up their kids with dope (not that parents are not doing that already, but it would turn into a free for all).
I don’t really have a problem with the NFL not being a WADA signatory and their players being walking pharmacies (there’s far, far, far more harm in playing football than anything you could dream up doping-wise), but holy crap I can’t believe that video. That’s just nuts that something that sketchy-looking was produced by an official NFL partner (FOX sports).
Anyone that’s like: “I don’t care about the NFL not being in WADA”, just watch the video. It’s really amazing in its frankness about what he’s doing (though they do throw in a claim everything is legal and he passes all the drug tests).
OK, I got sidetracked by the next video in this sequence, but this workout looks really awesome:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxPPDIljv1o
I’m going to incorporate some of that. At 50, probably would benefit a lot more from that stuff than more S/B/R in a straight line!
I don’t really have a problem with the NFL not being a WADA signatory and their players being walking pharmacies (there’s far, far, far more harm in playing football than anything you could dream up doping-wise), but holy crap I can’t believe that video. That’s just nuts that something that sketchy-looking was produced by an official NFL partner (FOX sports).
Anyone that’s like: “I don’t care about the NFL not being in WADA”, just watch the video. It’s really amazing in its frankness about what he’s doing (though they do throw in a claim everything is legal and he passes all the drug tests).
…and Peyton Manning gets on TV today and says the Al Jazeerah report on him doing HGH after neck surgery is totally bogus. Yeah right…at least NFL guys don’t pump up their tires with air but they do fill up their water bottles and no doubt and topping up on the same pharma plan that the competition is on.
I don’t really have a problem with the NFL not being a WADA signatory and their players being walking pharmacies (there’s far, far, far more harm in playing football than anything you could dream up doping-wise), but holy crap I can’t believe that video. That’s just nuts that something that sketchy-looking was produced by an official NFL partner (FOX sports).
Anyone that’s like: “I don’t care about the NFL not being in WADA”, just watch the video. It’s really amazing in its frankness about what he’s doing (though they do throw in a claim everything is legal and he passes all the drug tests).
…and Peyton Manning gets on TV today and says the Al Jazeerah report on him doing HGH after neck surgery is totally bogus. Yeah right…at least NFL guys don’t pump up their tires with air but they do fill up their water bottles and no doubt and topping up on the same pharma plan that the competition is on.Hard to believe Peyton is on performance enhancing drugs this year.
The reference was after his neck surgery, not this year. Look, I am a fan of the NFL and love Peyton, but would not be surprised if he was juiced at some points in the career simply to make the start line. NFL demands are unreal. Its delusional to think that these guys can make it through that schedule on bread and water.
I don’t really have a problem with the NFL not being a WADA signatory and their players being walking pharmacies (there’s far, far, far more harm in playing football than anything you could dream up doping-wise), but holy crap I can’t believe that video. That’s just nuts that something that sketchy-looking was produced by an official NFL partner (FOX sports).
Anyone that’s like: “I don’t care about the NFL not being in WADA”, just watch the video. It’s really amazing in its frankness about what he’s doing (though they do throw in a claim everything is legal and he passes all the drug tests).
…and Peyton Manning gets on TV today and says the Al Jazeerah report on him doing HGH after neck surgery is totally bogus. Yeah right…at least NFL guys don’t pump up their tires with air but they do fill up their water bottles and no doubt and topping up on the same pharma plan that the competition is on.
Well, when the source for the story admits that he was trolling the journalist and was just throwing out names to get him to bite, it does cast a wee bit of a shadow on the veracity of the article.
Not claiming Peyton is clean…wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if he was doping. But there are some serious issues with this article it seems.
This is an accusation without any evidence, against an entire sport
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NFL is not a signatory because it has no problem with doping - doping is accepted and part of football. Looking at NFL’s policies and how it act, it looks like doping is more than welcome.
The NFL is not a signatory because the NFLPA which didn’t like the draconian sanctions for positives.
However, the NFL busted more than 50 people for violating substance abuse policy in 2015 (source). That’s probably more than any single sport under the WADA umbrella. We don’t know how prevalent doping is in other sports to make any sort of comparison. But the NFL tests a lot. Every player at least once, randomly, and some a lot more. I’m sure there are loopholes, etc, But there are in every sport. I’m not sure that the NFL is the poster child for rampant doping that people in this forum like to pretend it is to distract from doping discussions in endurance sports. I’m a lot more suspicious of sports that generate very, very few positives. (cough FIFA cough)
Granted, my that includes a lot of weed positives. But they also popped a future Hall of Famer for steroids.
This is an accusation without any evidence, against an entire sport
Sure, technically there is no evidence, but where there is smoke there is likely some fire. The source could easily be backpedaling now. No doubt the NFL will try their best to cover this up and not mess around with the gravy train. Pretty well no American network is going to do any investigative journalism to bring down the dirt in the NFL since it’s the hand that feeds you…so this being broke by Al Jazeerah who have zero stake in the NFL gravy train, at least in my view gives the news some legs.
It’s OK guys. I am watching Peyton’s brother Eli over in Minnesota. These two guys are awesome doped or not. I am still watching and paying the network with my eyeballs.
The reference was after his neck surgery, not this year. Look, I am a fan of the NFL and love Peyton, but would not be surprised if he was juiced at some points in the career simply to make the start line. NFL demands are unreal. Its delusional to think that these guys can make it through that schedule on bread and water.I was just making a joke about his poor play this year. It’s reasonable to assume he’s taken something, particularly as he gets older and recovery time from injury is longer.
NFL is not a signatory because it has no problem with doping - doping is accepted and part of football. Looking at NFL’s policies and how it act, it looks like doping is more than welcome.
The NFL is not a signatory because the NFLPA which didn’t like the draconian sanctions for positives.
However, the NFL busted more than 50 people for violating substance abuse policy in 2015 (source). That’s probably more than any single sport under the WADA umbrella. We don’t know how prevalent doping is in other sports to make any sort of comparison. But the NFL tests a lot. Every player at least once, randomly, and some a lot more. I’m sure there are loopholes, etc, But there are in every sport. I’m not sure that the NFL is the poster child for rampant doping that people in this forum like to pretend it is to distract from doping discussions in endurance sports. I’m a lot more suspicious of sports that generate very, very few positives. (cough FIFA cough)
Granted, my that includes a lot of weed positives. But they also popped a future Hall of Famer for steroids.
NFL’s testing is a joke. The same is their anti doping policy.
That they caught 50 with a joke program is telling of how common doping is.
Did you watch the video. That is doping, but not in the NFL. The bar for what is doping in the NFL is high compare to other sports. Still 50 idiots managed to get caught. How they managed that is hard to understand. But I guess football is not too good for your brain.
But I think football fans care as much about doping as NFL cares about concussions.
NFL’s testing is a joke. The same is their anti doping policy.
I agree it could be improved. But I think that endurance athletes tend to use the NFL and other big, loud corporate American sports as a crutch to feel good about their own sports. (cough FIFA cough)
That is doping, but not in the NFL.
Right. It’s doping according to WADA, but not according to the NFL. That’s pretty straightforward. Doping is whatever a sport’s governing body defines doping to be.
But I think football fans care as much about doping as NFL cares about concussions.
Or as much as cycling cares about crashes, which probably have caused human destruction somewhat comparable to the NFL’s concussion issues. Every sport has its concessions to the marketplace, some worse than others.
NFL’s testing is a joke. The same is their anti doping policy.
I agree it could be improved. But I think that endurance athletes tend to use the NFL and other big, loud corporate American sports as a crutch to feel good about their own sports. (cough FIFA cough)
That is doping, but not in the NFL.
Right. It’s doping according to WADA, but not according to the NFL. That’s pretty straightforward. Doping is whatever a sport’s governing body defines doping to be.
But I think football fans care as much about doping as NFL cares about concussions.
Or as much as cycling cares about crashes, which probably have caused human destruction somewhat comparable to the NFL’s concussion issues. Every sport has its concessions to the marketplace, some worse than others.
I am with Halvard…what the player showed in the video is doping in the rest of the world. The last thing you want is your 16 year old sourcing this stuff on the internet and shooting himself up like the pros for “recovery”. While the NFL might not call that duck a duck, everywhere else in the world that was a duck. As for FIFA, don’t even get me going on it. Juventus’ reign at the top of the champion’s league overlapped nicely with when TMobile and Mercatone Uno were winning the TdF and Giro at 50% just before the big Festina drug bust in 1998. Juventus perhaps (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2004/nov/26/newsstory.sport4). Then the TdF needed a Texan to come and jack up ratings…not so much unlike Sosa-Bonds-McGuire home run derby post strike years. All these sports need heroics to sell to the networks. And let’s not forget about those 4 hour tennis 5 set marathons. Definitely all on bread and water.
I don’t think anyone is beating here on the NFL because we want to feel good about endurance sport. We’re just pointing out it is everywhere.
And the same reason they refuse to do anything with their lethal concussion epidemic, which would mean changing the sport. (Other sports have changed dramatically to reduce their injuries and deaths - Formula One motor racing is a good example.)