How many ACC coaches get the boot this year? Coker already got fired. I loved his post game interview, when asked about next year he said he has a long-term contract and expects to be there. I’m 85% sure he already knew he was fired.
So who else is getting the boot? Should Duke just give up on its football program? UNC already booted its coach.
If you don’t get the title, at the beginning of the year all the ACC coaches filmed a speech about sportsmanship etc. It’s actually decent, they play your coach at home games (GO TERPS!!!) and the ad even runs during games. But it’s funny to see it now since Coker is fired, Bowden is under pressure (he’s going no where) etc.
I think Coker was so jovial before the game b/c he probably already has another gig lined up. Everyone said back in 2001 that his national championship was built on Butch Davis’ recruiting abilities… and that was certainly proved true. Miami can probably get anyone they want to replace him. Who wouldn’t want that job?
An interesting parallel is that Ralph Friedgen came in and had great success with his predecessor’s recruits (Vander something or other, I’ve blocked out his time, though he wasn’t horrible).
I think Coker is a good coach, not a great recruiter, and he didn’t do a good enough job of getting assistants who can recruit.
I’m sure Coker will land on his feet, do really well elsewhere, and end up in another major conference. It’ll be interesting to see where he lands.
Reads like a probable candidate. Is he a good recruiter? That’ll drive a lot of it. If he wasn’t helping Coker recruit, I wonder why they’d think he can get it done now.
They need a disciplinarion (is that a word?), a recruiter, and probably someone who will excite the masses (Spurrier is out, and he doesn’t want the job yet I don’t think).
As an ACC fan, I want Miami to get better; hell, I want FSU to get better! Their declines have hurt the ACC in general, though have allowed the likes of WF and MD to rise up. Hopefully a rising tide raises all ships in the ACC, but we need our FL counterparts to play better. It’s tough when you are fighting years of expectations. Their failures recently might be good, because folks were expecting to win it all every year, which is obviously not possible and leads you to fire good coaches.
Bowden stays 2+ more years, though I can’t tell if his son leaving motivates him more, or makes him want to get out. I think he has to stay to fix the reputation of his name while his sone goes somewhere for a job.
Somebody that doesn’t want to have to deal with changing the opinion of the program as being “Thug U” (but, they’ve always had that), or someone that realizes that Miami’s not in the Big East anymore, and turning things arund in the ACC will likely be more difficult than before.
Still, it is Miami … but not the “same” Miami of the past decade and some.
Miami will likely always get recruits because of their success in turning out pros. They’ll recruit guys with shady, and even criminal pasts, and they realize that a good number of their prized recruits have no intention of graduating. Miami is a unique school.
“but not the “same” Miami of the past decade and some”
if anything, their reputation has improved over this timeframe - if you recall the antics of the Jimmy Johnson era, the Pell grant scandal, and the subsequent NCAA sanctions. Well, honestly, I can only compare when I was there 1999-2002 (as another athlete in a different sport) to the early 90s when my ex was there playing under Jimmy Johnson. Both times had amazingly talented players who went on to become top NFL players, but I know for certain that things were much more under control when I was there.
Yes, a good number of recruits have no intention of graduating. Mostly, they are kids who wouldn’t be in college in the first place if not for football, so I don’t see that as an issue.
Reputation of being an out of control program >> VALID
Pathetic fans and fan support >> not true at all
Shitty Stadium >> VALID
The worst facilities of a “major” Division 1 program >> I know Kirk Herbstreet said that during the game but I have no idea where he came up with that. They just completely renovated their athletic center in 2001, and it’s beautiful. The only thing that is in disrepair is the Orange Bowl, which belongs to the city.
No more cupcake schedule from the Big East >> I see this as a plus for any coach who actually likes coaching.
“but not the “same” Miami of the past decade and some”
if anything, their reputation has improved over this timeframe - if you recall the antics of the Jimmy Johnson era, the Pell grant scandal, and the subsequent NCAA sanctions. Well, honestly, I can only compare when I was there 1999-2002 (as another athlete in a different sport) to the early 90s when my ex was there playing under Jimmy Johnson. Both times had amazingly talented players who went on to become top NFL players, but I know for certain that things were much more under control when I was there.
Yes, a good number of recruits have no intention of graduating. Mostly, they are kids who wouldn’t be in college in the first place if not for football, so I don’t see that as an issue.
The last part is definitely an issue under the new NCAA rules for eligibility, which place greater demands for progress towards a degree on both the student athletes and the athletic programs. Individual SA’s must show progress towards a degree to continue playing, and too low a percentage of SA’s graduating now causes schools to start losing scholarships.
Miami still has a greater image problem than you might think, even if Butch Davis did clean up the act somewhat during his tenure. When we (Georgia Tech) played Miami at home this year, the fans that showed up to root for Miami looked like they were straight off a Two Live Crew album cover. They may very well have been locals who root for Miami even though they’ve never been within a hundred miles of South Beach, but that’s the Hurricanes’ legacy nationally.
Reputation of being an out of control program >> VALID
Pathetic fans and fan support >> not true at all They don’t even sell out for home games??
Shitty Stadium >> VALID
The worst facilities of a “major” Division 1 program >> I know Kirk Herbstreet said that during the game but I have no idea where he came up with that. They just completely renovated their athletic center in 2001, and it’s beautiful. The only thing that is in disrepair is the Orange Bowl, which belongs to the city. I will defer to you on this, as I was getting my information from Herbie also, but you would know best.
No more cupcake schedule from the Big East >> I see this as a plus for any coach who actually likes coaching. Good point
I am glad to see you are at least educated on the subject. Not like the typical “U” fan.
the big home games do fill up! the OB is a big stadium, too. don’t forget, it was a pro stadium. Wikipedia says that it holds 74,000+ regularly, but they regularly add extra bleacher seating in the end zones to fit 82,000+ for the big games, which makes it bigger than ND’s stadium and many other decently large ones.
one problem is that we don’t get too many visitor fans from the opposing team. traveling to miami just isn’t convenient enough for most opposing fans to fill up seats the way Ohio State and Michigan do with each other.
EDIT: worth mentioning, too, is that most people think UM is a big state school. in fact, it is a small-ish D1 private school. i think undergrad enrollment was around 7,000 when i was there. Total enrollment currently is 15,600 including grad students. Compare that to Ohio State with 59,000…
no, that place ROCKS literally. if you get too much foot-stomping action, i’d be afraid of complete structural failure. you can see really big rusty cracks in all the main support beams. i was always a little afraid of the upper deck section.
but, yeah, the OB definitely has a gritty feeling that makes the game electric. just don’t eat anything, try to park anywhere near there, or use the bathrooms and you’ll be ok.
btw - the Orange Bowl bowl game is not played in the Orange Bowl anymore, so if you were there recently, you were actually in Joe Robbie/Dolphin Stadium.