The Scary Secret Behind My Boss' Sub 20 5K Times

My boss overheard me in the hall a minute ago talking to a runner about “leg shaving.” I was arguing that runners had no business shaving their legs until they could run a sub 20 minute, 5k, that that ought to be the standard announced in Runners World, just to clear up any confusion about it.

Then, my boss pokes his head out and says, “I’ve run several of these 5k races you are talking about under 20, in 19 minutes, or so, in my early forties, and never had to shave my legs,” he said, and continued, “just by getting ready for them using an occasional tread mill workout in the morning.”

Poppycock, I said, but sure as hell, I go look up the results, and he was right.

And, here, I had stepped on a nerve, a bit. He believes leg shaved men are secretly effeminant and should be crushed. He’s a former, highly competitive football quarterback, and an “equipment and training minimalist.” He once came into my office, and, on my desk, picked up “Going Long,” and said, “this is your problem, you read too much.” He wanted to know why the “guy was wearing what looked like just underwear trying to ride that bike, on the cover.”

He has some better quips, “what happened in your race?,” he will ask me. And I will come back with some funny story, and he will say, “that’s your problem, you think its all funny, out there, the sooner you quit thinking its funny out there, the better off you will be.”

Anyway, the idea of a man, shaving any male hair is an affront to mankind, for him. Guys who shave their legs, to him, should be picked off and run down like dogs, even if it kills you to try to do so.

Just set him out in a race or a competitive environment, with his Wilson racquetball shoes, and nature takes hold, like a front running Kentucky race horse.

But he has a goal, if you can believe this is, which is to beat “the leg shaved guys,” and “all the women.” Time is unimportant to him. He wears no watch. For him, they could just as well say, “we aren’t recording times, we are just going to see how many of you guys beat the women runners and dudes wearing tight shorts, with shaved legs.”

That would be fine with him.

He just wants to mow down guys who shave their legs and women. Therefore, it is not unusual for him to have this kind of post race discussion: “I did pretty well, but several women passed me. I think four of them passed me. I counted four, maybe five.”

This is where I come back with, “Well, they pass me all the time. You need to get used to that. That doesn’t bother me.” And he comes back with, “this is your problem, that should bother you.”

Or, “I beat some guy in one of those tight uniforms, you and your bike buddies wear, Booth.” Or, “there was one guy wearing a loud keychain, I really wanted to beat him, and did.”

Here’s a final irony. His wife now runs marathons, and I was checking with her about his running times, describing his race psychology, and she said, “oh, yeah, that’s him, but I try to beat all the guys, though.”

Scary? Scary? You call THAT scary? Scary would be "my boss runs sub 20 min 5Ks by eating newborns. Please… I read that whole thing looking for the scary part.

Does he shave his face? Face shavers are all gay.

I hate to show my ignorance, but I just can’t help myself. Why would a runner shave their legs? Never even dawned on me until I bought a bike to get into triathlons, and started hanging out with tri-geeks and roadies. Eventually succumbed to peer pressure after every ride I went to I got the “you need to shave your legs” speech. Is it cooler, for massages, … help a rube out.

I was arguing that runners had no business shaving their legs until they could run a sub 20 minute, 5k

Runners don’t shave their legs. I’ve been running competitively for thirty years, and never saw a runner with shaved legs… only cyclists crosstraining, and triathletes.

But yes, your boss has a problem…

I got over women beating me in 1980… I’d run 4:30 for this ultra in '79, and beat the first woman by 20min. In '80, I ran 4:20, and the first woman beat me by 30 min. Oh well…

“The less secure a man is, the more likely he is to exhibit extreme predjudice.” Clint Eastwood…

Yup, pretty much sums up what I think of your boss’s attitude.

BTW, anytime that candy-ass former jocklehead QB wants to go…this shaved-down Jarhead will gladly afford him the opportunity to tap out. I’m shaven from head to toe, except for the fun-zone…how do you s’pose that’d grab him?

how does running a 19 minute 5k qualify him to talk like hes hicham el g. or something? that doesnt even get you near the top ten in most cases. ask him where he placed overall in the race…then when he says 30th or whatever, you should go ‘wow, 29 people beat you, doesnt that bother you, it should’, besides, hes comparing himself to the performance of women, how about comparing himself to the performance of men…theres too many ignorant people opening their mouths these days.

He is missing the point I am afraid. The very fact I have semi naked fit women in front of me is why I do this in the first place!

beat “the leg shaved guys,” and “all the women.”
The more I think about it, the more I like it!

Your boss needs to stop worrying so much about what other people do with their lives. sounds like he’s only motivated by external factors (i.e. beating shaved leg dudes and chicks) and not internally. That’s a path to an unhappy life.

I try to stay away from dickheads like that.

BTW - I couldn’t agree with another poster more, I love this sport so I can gauk at all the fit, lycra clad women and what better way to view them than from behind! jk

I agree, but I see more and more, just runners, shave their legs. Also, I realize many of you guys and gals can rip off 5-6 minute miles, regularly.

On the “Beat The Chicks Thing,” its not just the chicks, but anyone who, how do I put this, isn’t some hairy Rambo “Man,” out there. Its guys, too. Its basically a competitive, football guy, with a tremendous amount of pride.

Now, he’s funny about it, too. I just got through talking with him about this, again. And there’s a 5k tommorrow. And I said, “Come on, man, enter, and block the wind for me.” And he said, and I quote: “Just get up front, and go with the fast runners as far as you can, until you feel like passing out, then tell yourself this is only going to last 12-13 more minutes, or so. You basically can endure anything for 12 minutes, if you put your mind into it.”

I’m like, “yeah, right.”

“go with the fast runners as far as you can, until you feel like passing out, then tell yourself this is only going to last 12-13 more minutes, or so. You basically can endure anything for 12 minutes,”

You should point out that this assumes that you feel like passing out after about a minute since the fast runners run 5k in 14 minutes and change.

how bout you try it? you might surprise yourself…

Not down here they don’t. But I’m talking about the 19-22 minute crowd here.

A 16-18 minute would slaughter in the 40-45 ag 5k down here, pretty much.

I have never run a 5k, just 2 sprints, only been into this for about a year and a half.

I’ve got it where I can do, out on a high school track, so I don’t cheat. I’m slow, so don’t laugh. I do one mile, fast as I can go, is about 6:45-6:53. Then, I walk 220 yards, and gun it, again. Next one, is about 7:30 to 7:40. Walk 220 yards. The next two miles the same way, just barely coming in under 8. I’m 6’2, right about 205 right now.

This is all I want to do, get under 23 or so. Goal is to try to go under 20 minutes by next year. Hopefully. I need to lose about 10-15 pounds.

I’m thinking the lead group will be, yeah, doing 5 minute miles. There will probably be 3 other groups behind that, doing 6-6:30-7’s. If I can hang with the third or fourth pack there, and just hold on, might be able to go under 23 minutes. Maybe being in a race will help the speed.

TriBri, although I am familiar with the phrase and who to refers to, but where does the name Jarhead come from? What is its origin?

The term “jarhead” comes from being a US Marine. It originated from the dress blue uniforms with high collars and the short high-n-tight haircuts, causing a Marine to appear to have a “jarhead”.

I don’t know about scary, but it is pretty obvious why he is your boss.

Just kidding!

As simple as that ,eh? Thanks for the information, although I had hoped for something more exotic!

Protect yourself, Booth. Stop talking about what’s really important to you in front of this chucklehad… you know, pearls before swine… Think about what you’re gonna have to eat if (when!) you do beat him.

and said, “this is your problem, you read too much.” and he will say, “that’s your problem, you think its all funny, out there, the sooner you quit thinking its funny out there, the better off you will be.”

…should be picked off and run down like dogs, even if it kills you to try to do so.

…and nature takes hold, like a front running Kentucky race horse.

Time is unimportant to him. He wears no watch.

That would be fine with him.

… that should bother you.

Your boss sounds like a natural born athlete.

A pure, motherfuckin’ achiever.