The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread

That Whoop recovery rate is elite.

And just like that… I have removed the STICKY :slight_smile:

She caught Covid earlier this year after Tokyo. She still has a WTCS final left in her season so I would imagine she is taking all the precautions she can since it cost her from racing WTCS Cagliari and nearly head to drop out from racing 70.3 Boulder this year.

You mention the mask, did she say at some point why she wears it?

I’m a bit surprised Lionel doesn’t wear it. He’s all about optimizing stuff now, isn’t he?

For a pro athlete, a mask seems like an obvious choice in an indoor setting in the middle of a crowd of mostly strangers, 3 days before one of the key races of the year. Not just COVID - a mere cold or stomach flu could ruin their chances. I guess it’s a bit of a “what will people think” problem, but if I were a sponsor, I would think the sponsored athlete should be wearing a mask.

I can’t listen to Knibb, not a fan at all.

You mention the mask, did she say at some point why she wears it?

I just wear mine on airline travel these days, because there is no downside. As for Knibb, she was at the pool yesterday socializing with age groupers like a regular person excited about her race. She was very relatable to the average triathlete…she was just way faster, doing kick sets in the pool passing age grouper sprinting and meanwhile encouraging people and wishing them good luck on their races :-). Funny thing as this is the Lionel thread she was leading the Lionel lane and he was saying how hard she was making him work !!!

I can’t listen to Knibb, not a fan at all.

You mention the mask, did she say at some point why she wears it?

On the front page ST article about the race it says “Simmonds was one of many athletes who had fallen ill out of Singapore”. Australian Hauser caught Covid just before the Paris test event and was not able to compete.

Wearing a mask to reduce the chance of illness seems a no brainer.

I can’t listen to Knibb, not a fan at all.

You mention the mask, did she say at some point why she wears it?

I just wear mine on airline travel these days, because there is no downside. As for Knibb, she was at the pool yesterday socializing with age groupers like a regular person excited about her race. She was very relatable to the average triathlete…she was just way faster, doing kick sets in the pool passing age grouper sprinting and meanwhile encouraging people and wishing them good luck on their races :-). Funny thing as this is the Lionel thread she was leading the Lionel lane and he was saying how hard she was making him work !!!

So she’s a strong kicker??? I haven’t watched that video but it did look like she and Lionel were in the same lane, which I thought was odd. :slight_smile:

Did anyone watch the pro pre race interview? Lionel just smashed the questions, and was really the only one to just speak his truth, along with Knibb too. They asked him about his previous 70.3 champs and were jerking him off about his podium place(many, many years ago) and he jumps in with I have skipped this race for the past 6 or 7 years because my swim is shit. Then he says but you are here now, and it is better, "NO NO!, it is still shit, and worse than it has been in the past 4 years!!!

And then a long explanation on how he has neglected technique, and just smashed the workouts with brute force. It really was pretty entertaining the looks on the other athletes faces listening to him just put it all out there. Knibb did a similar rant, when every single lady was asked if they cannot win, who would they want to win otherwise. Everyone was picked by someone, except Knibb. And of course she brought that up in a question, which made everyone seem really uncomfortable. And she is the only one wearing a mask still, I just fell in love with her as an athlete a little bit more after her answers…But enough about Knibb, what did Lionel have for breakfast, and when was the last time he got laid?

And I was really surprised about the media there, went to a question and answer period, and only one question from all the media, and it was our Talbot!!!

A totally different sport, but compare that to the Richardson interview at Track Worlds with gems like “I’m humble, I’m not back I’m better” and taking offense to any question that wasn’t overtly praising. There was a question about ‘missing world last year, coming back this year to win, how’d you do that?’. And her answer was basically how dare you bring that up, the media is evil and trying to bring me down.

And I was really surprised about the media there, went to a question and answer period, and only one question from all the media, and it was our Talbot!!!

this seems to happen often - was the same story at st george, if i remember. it’s really embarrassing - like, here we at the world championship, you have all the best athletes mic’d up on a stage, and nobody has anything to ask them? maybe IM should open up a Zoom link or something, so remote journalists could ask questions too? just anything to help the dialogue move.

Event organizers should at least plant 4 or 5 questions in the media to get the ball rolling. Awkward for the sport to have no media questions at a world championship event. That’s event management 101.

And I was really surprised about the media there, went to a question and answer period, and only one question from all the media, and it was our Talbot!!!

this seems to happen often - was the same story at st george, if i remember. it’s really embarrassing - like, here we at the world championship, you have all the best athletes mic’d up on a stage, and nobody has anything to ask them? maybe IM should open up a Zoom link or something, so remote journalists could ask questions too? just anything to help the dialogue move.

We’ve asked for it. I know the Comms team is working on being able to provide that in the future.

But usually the conferences are dead because people want to ask their “own” questions on their respective platforms.

Talbot and crew have been killing it for the past month. Good on them.

Did anyone watch the pro pre race interview?

Knibb did a similar rant, when every single lady was asked if they cannot win, who would they want to win otherwise. Everyone was picked by someone, except Knibb. And of course she brought that up in a question, which made everyone seem really uncomfortable.

And I was really surprised about the media there, went to a question and answer period, and only one question from all the media, and it was our Talbot!!!Yes
Well I guess all the women knew that Knibb was going to crush it. Knibb, nostradamus style, picked Matthews as the athlete she’d like to win if she didn’t win (of course Matthews was not included in the so-called press conference line up).
Yes, I cannot understand why media people don’t ask their questions. Do they not have enquiring minds? Are they embarassed at their lack of knowledge? Why didn’t someone ask Knibb whether she might race Kona (if only so she could say " . . . . . . . ". All the commentators today were being super-knowing-but-not-saying don’t-mention-the-war coy personified.
But enough about Sanders.

There were some questions during the post race press conference but the media didn’t have a microphone so you couldn’t hear the questions, just the answers.

It was better than last year, but there’s still an opportunity to do better.

Did anyone watch the pro pre race interview?

Knibb did a similar rant, when every single lady was asked if they cannot win, who would they want to win otherwise. Everyone was picked by someone, except Knibb. And of course she brought that up in a question, which made everyone seem really uncomfortable.

And I was really surprised about the media there, went to a question and answer period, and only one question from all the media, and it was our Talbot!!!Yes
Well I guess all the women knew that Knibb was going to crush it. Knibb, nostradamus style, picked Matthews as the athlete she’d like to win if she didn’t win (of course Matthews was not included in the so-called press conference line up).
Yes, I cannot understand why media people don’t ask their questions. Do they not have enquiring minds? Are they embarassed at their lack of knowledge? Why didn’t someone ask Knibb whether she might race Kona (if only so she could say " . . . . . . . ". All the commentators today were being super-knowing-but-not-saying don’t-mention-the-war coy personified.
But enough about Sanders.

rrheiseler alluded to it, but all of the media in the pit have their own youtube channels/social medias. Their not going to ask stuff in the press conference that anyone can record and post. They’re saving those questions for their own interviews in hopes of bringing views to their youtube page.

Event organizers should at least plant 4 or 5 questions in the media to get the ball rolling. Awkward for the sport to have no media questions at a world championship event. That’s event management 101.

exactly my thinking.

i get that people want to ‘save’ juicy questions for their own platforms, but chrissakes, ask a few softballs just out of courtesy. “hey, what will you spend your prize money on?” or “hey ladies, who do you think is going to win the men’s race?” or something.

I can’t listen to Knibb, not a fan at all.

You mention the mask, did she say at some point why she wears it?

On the front page ST article about the race it says “Simmonds was one of many athletes who had fallen ill out of Singapore”. Australian Hauser caught Covid just before the Paris test event and was not able to compete.

Wearing a mask to reduce the chance of illness seems a no brainer.

Indeed. There are clear hypotheticals for explaining how in a limited fashion a mask can not eliminate, but reduce probability of infection by reducing the viral load you encounter.

There are also hypotheticals which, are often overlooked but suggest that wearing a mask without disposing of it in every new contaminated environment, scrubbing down and getting a new mask can actually increase chance through repeated contact with said compromised mask and hand facial contact.

Those observations are keeping with the results of the largest RCT on mask wearing for covid ever conducted which found no true statistical differences but threw a meager bone to both sides saying it could actually help a reasonable amount and it could actually hurt a little: “Although the difference observed was not statistically significant, the 95% CIs are compatible with a 46% reduction to a 23% increase in infection.” Both make sense in light of the hypotheticals above.

Both are probability games. And if your mask has particles on it there is some (lessor on average but harming sometimes) probability that you will contact those in ways that you wouldn’t have were you not carrying them around all the time in and out of your pocket.

It’s important to note the most infected areas in the pandemic were rest homes and hospitals which all had robust mask policies. So over time the infection WILL spread regardless as we saw; after all, that’s how it was alleged to have escaped from a lab among people who were doing much more proflactic than repeatedly wearing the same mask all day/week/month.

Hope Sanders wins! Knibb is a beast for how she answers questions and I think she’s taken a reasonable approach to mask wearing as far as I can see – minimize risk in certain situations but don’t obsess over it and let it control your life by putting complete faith in it.

I wonder if she’s had covid yet?

Many studies have shown the effectiveness of masks in stopping the spreading of diseases. Both for the wearer and the people around them. You should not cherry pick one study over another. Anyway this is a conversation which belongs in the LR and 2020 / 2021.

Well done Knibb on a dominate race.

Many studies have shown the effectiveness of masks in stopping the spreading of diseases. Both for the wearer and the people around them. You should not cherry pick one study over another. Anyway this is a conversation which belongs in the LR and 2020 / 2021.

Well done Knibb on a dominate race.

That’s what real professional athletes do. Make sure they can get to the start line healthy. If you can reduce chance of getting sick by wearing a mask, why not? Better than posting, “I’m gutted because I’m sick, have soar throat, picked up something” like somebody.

Imagine being so wrapped up in someone wearing a mask
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Imagine being so wrapped up in someone wearing a mask

Me? I’m not. I basically said what she’s doing is sensible. I didn’t kowtow to it as an article of faith like some but acknowledged and cited the best RCT on this specific subject without resorting to convenience samples of time and place like most others. Meh. I thought what I said was fair to all sides.