Pretty solid hour ride for Lionel.
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And did you notice heās on rollers? Gotta be tougher in general.
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I was super impressed by that, even if itās the rollers with bumpers on them. And I think he did some of it in aero, too. I know descent bike handling is a different beast than rollers, but it def takes skill and endurance to ride at FTP for an hour pushing your limits while on rollers, I feel like Iām barely keeping upright on a fixed trainer in the last half, let alone in rollers!
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follow up run vid. whats up with lionel coughing all the time?
Itās just the aftermath of a really hard effort.
Also itās allergy season here in AZ
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He mentioned in a previous video he got a chronic cough
Thatās not a chronic cough there thatās def the result of going full gas in a short very hard effort.
One thing to be mindful here in AZ are things like āValley Feverā which is a long-term fungal infection. Not that he has that but itās often people who move here are subject to all sorts of allergens they have never been exposed to and can cause some chronic conditions that donāt necessarily effect long term health, they are just irritating and seasonal.
Iām not buying the āfull gas effortā. He biked one hour all out in the morning. He ran 6 km at 1:13 half marathon pace. What could be the relative effort of each of the subsequent six 1 km repeats? Subthreshold tops.
I had to do a āhardā transition run yesterday in the warmer mid-morning temperature (probably around 75-80) and was coughing a bit after. The air here is very dry, and these guys were running in some decent temps. I agree not all out, but I am pretty confident this is an environmental issue.
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Interesting, wondering if i have similar, the cough is mostly before workouts, not right after
Iām not buying itās just environment. Look how hard both of them are going on that last interval - itās lights out. Thatās exactly what gives you that nasty post VO2max interval cough when you REALLY push it, especially in dry, dusty conditions. Iāve had it myself, and watched others get it. I donāt get it unless I really, really push it, but I def see that happening with these 2 neck and neck on the last interval. I wasnāt surprised at all to see him coughing up a lung, actually.
THeir pace on the video as shown by the video stamp on the last interval got up to 2:53km, or a sub-15 5k pace (14:23 pace) which seems like an all-out effort by these guys. And just look at them - thereās no way theyāre holding that pace any longer - Lionelās already flagging in the last 10 meters. Still, itās close enough to not know whoāll be stronger on race day, esp doing this workout with all the fatigue built up.
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So since sam isnāt coughing, he is more fit?
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Watch some work outs of pro marathoner Conner Mantz. Heās coughing a lot and his training partner Clayton Young looks cool as a cucumber.
Conner runs up front with the Africans and sets US records while Clayton gets popped off the back in races.
Likely the combination of allergies and some congestion, small sickness etc is what Lionel is dealing with.
No pro athlete takes the slowtwitch medical advice and rests for 10 days when they get a little sick. Case in point I heard Conner once say he tapered back his mileage to about 100 miles to recover a bit.
As I said before, you canāt really tell because of the load theyāre carrying into the workout.
You also know that it doesnāt matter whoās coughing at the end more, itās who comes across the line first. I did see in the video Sam pulling ahead of Lionel on the last one, so you can say Sam was a smidgen faster at the very end, but again, itās all a wash with the carried load.
Typically though, sure, if two athletes are going pretty much all out, and oneās hacking up a lung after and they finish the same time, Iād say the one who isnāt hacking up the lung is a hair fitter if they carry in the same training load.
You can go back through yearsā worth of Lionelās hard workout videos and he is coughing. Iām not saying that I like it ā I even wondered if that may have somehow contributed to his cracked rib last season. But this is just part of how Lionel functions in his workouts, for better or worse.
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I agree but thatās because heās killinghimself on those workouts.
You go push yourself to what feels like your absolute max and then some for intervals and youāll get it too. But itās horrifyingly hard def donāt want to do that regularly!
You guys arenāt listening. Ambient humidity here is very low and getting a dry, scratchy throat if you are breathing hard is very common.
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No Iāve trained down there exactly where Lionel is. Yes itās dry but you donāt dry cough that hard unless youāre pushing your max limits. I did it there in a bike camp, both me and the guy drafting me had nasty coughs after. We went super hard!