The Impertinent Questions List

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#1. In order to obey the “RESUME SAFE SPEED” sign, do I first need to drive at an unsafe speed?

#2. Since you are never supposed to increase your running mileage by more than 10% from week to week, doesn’t that mean that a non-runner (whose mileage is zero) could never take up running?

#3. Would the world be better off if certain people refrained from exercising their so-called “civic duty” on Election Day?

#4. Would an Omnipotent Being have the power to limit its own power?

#5. Is the answer to question #15 “no”?

#6. We’re often told that the Declaration of Independence has no legal standing. In that case, isn’t the U. S. Constitution invalid, since the colonies are still bound by British law?

#7. Exactly how can an exception prove the rule? (See http://www.snopes.com/...tthink/exception.asp.)

#8. Why do people call certain behaviors “selfish” even when they are demonstrably destructive to the self?

#9. When people talk about “giving back” to society, exactly what do they think they stole?

#10. Is there really any difference between religion and superstition?

#11. Is it possible to intervene into a free market twice?

#12. If all people are created equal, then why do we recognize certain rights for a person born on one side of a national border but not for people born on the other side?

#13. Why do many people consider human sacrifice to be a good thing?

#14. If an issue was ever resolved on Slowtwitch, would that have any measurable impact on the world?

#15. What is the correct answer to question #5?

#16. If everything ought to be done in moderation, shouldn’t one practice extremism from time to time in order to avoid carrying moderation to an extreme?

#17. In a group of more than two people, isn’t everybody a “minority”?

#18. If “everything is relative,” does that make the relativity principle an absolute?

#19. Ex-convicts are said to have “paid their debt to society,” but have they paid their debt to their actual victims? Also, exactly how does sitting in a cell pay off a debt?

#20. If the ends are properly chosen and if the means support the ends, shouldn’t the ends always justify the means?

#1 Would that be “Resume SAFE Speed”?

#4 My favorite Is “If god can do everything can he make a rock so big he can’t pick it up?”

~Matt

Correction duly noted.

Can He build a mountain so tall that He cannot climb it? Can He write a piece of software so complex that even He cannot debug it?

#1. In order to obey the “RESUME SAFE SPEED” sign, do I first need to drive at an unsafe speed?

I don’t drive. so can’t answer.

#2. Since you are never supposed to increase your running mileage by more than 10% from week to week, doesn’t that mean that a non-runner (whose mileage is zero) could never take up running?

If you run 10 miles in one week and zero in the next, you should consider your average weekly millage 5miles/week for those two weeks. Since most everyone who knows how to run has run at least a few steps in in the past, childhood, chasing after other kids etc., hence she cant claim to be an absolute non-runner (i.e having exactly zero average weekly millage). In other words, most people capable of taking steps have more than zero avg weekly millage for their entire life, ergo they can work on that. The fact that people move at all, suggests that the 10% rule is not correct for the boundary conditions.

#3. Would the world be better off if certain people refrained from exercising their so-called “civic duty” on Election Day?
Probably. But there are some in the said group of people who almost certainly feel the same about those whose opinions contrast theirs. So in each one’s view, the world would have been “better” without the other voice heard.

#4. Would an Omnipotent Being have the power to limit its own power?
Omnipotent being is a logical paradox.

#5. Is the answer to question #15 “no”?
The answer is whatever Kurt Godel says :wink: See also Q15.

#6. We’re often told that the Declaration of Independence has no legal standing. In that case, isn’t the U. S. Constitution invalid, since the colonies are still bound by British law?
what exactly gives legitimacy to legal documents?

#7. Exactly how can an exception prove the rule? (See http://www.snopes.com/...tthink/exception.asp.)
seems like a bad link.

#8. Why do people call certain behaviors “selfish” even when they are demonstrably destructive to the self?

Lets take smoking in public places. Even though it is damaging the offender first and foremost, it is still a selfish act because it puts the individual’s (short term) satisfaction in front of the welfare of others, in a situation where they do conflict. Why would one get satisfied from a destructive act is an orthogonal issue.

#9. When people talk about “giving back” to society, exactly what do they think they stole?

Stealing might not be what being compensated. They have gained their status partly by the virtue of all the history of their predecessors, and the people whose contributions have made their lives easier in the society. The continuation of this trend, to which the human race seems to be bound depends on what you refer to as “giving back”. Whether, it is meaningful at all is, however, another story.

#10. Is there really any difference between religion and superstition?

Depending on the source of the superstition, there could be differences. Some superstitious beliefs are formed based on personal anecdote. For example based on few experiences, one might form an opinion about fortunate nature of certain phenomena, e.g. a sequence of license plates etc. Religion however is, most of the time, a subscribed belief, passed on by inheritance and institutionalized advocacy.

#11. Is it possible to intervene into a free market twice?

You first have to implement a “free market”. Can you argue that it ever existed?

#12. If all people are created equal, then why do we recognize certain rights for a person born on one side of a national border but not for people born on the other side?

Good question. Why?

#13. Why do many people consider human sacrifice to be a good thing?

Many people consider many things good, so long as they assume the role of spectator in movie theaters. Least action principle, in my opinion, is one of the most fundamental laws that the nature, including human being, is governed by. There are always very few who are willing to get out of their comfort zones.

#14. If an issue was ever resolved on Slowtwitch, would that have any measurable impact on the world?

yes. The impact might be low, but it is still measurable. If you manage to change my opinion, you have got 1/7.00E9 of the job done.

#15. What is the correct answer to question #5?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsgdZFIdmeo&feature=related

#16. If everything ought to be done in moderation, shouldn’t one practice extremism from time to time in order to avoid carrying moderation to an extreme?

Even if you do that, you will settle into a pattern of being moderate for the most time, and then extreme for a little. Just like a pulse with duty cycle of say 90%, which will be repeated to the extreme. The only way out is to act absolutely randomly.

#17. In a group of more than two people, isn’t everybody a “minority”?

It seems that is the case. I guess I am missing the wit on this one.

#18. If “everything is relative,” does that make the relativity principle an absolute?
Relatively yes.

#19. Ex-convicts are said to have “paid their debt to society,” but have they paid their debt to their actual victims? Also, exactly how does sitting in a cell pay off a debt?
By paying debt, if you mean reversing the damages they have afflicted, then they sometimes are not possible to be inverted. Sitting in a cell, more than anything, should serve as a preventive measure; whether it does accomplish that goal is debatable.

#20. If the ends are properly chosen and if the means support the ends, shouldn’t the ends always justify the means?
No, why should they? The ends as properly chosen as they might be, may not have taken into account those, well-being of whom might be at stake to meet the ends. There is also always tensions between goals (Hegel’s anti-thesis), meeting one will inevitably give rise to the forces supporting the other and so on.

#7 Exception and Rule

Sounds like how you define a math function by conditions. For example f(n) = 1 if n==0, 0 otherwise. In a binary system, you need to only specify the singularity points to have a complete definition over the entire domain, because the value of the rest can be assumed based on the context.

An alternate answer to question 5 and 15 (same in essence):

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4 My favorite Is “If god can do everything can he make a rock so big he can’t pick it up?”

When I was about 8 y/o I declared that “God can do anything!” My older brother replied “God can’t kill me yesterday.”

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When I was about 8 y/o I declared that “God can do anything!” My older brother replied “God can’t kill me yesterday.”

Did you say, “Never underestimate the power of gods ability to time travel. You may already be dead and not even know it”

~Matt

“In other words, most people capable of taking steps have more than zero avg weekly millage for their entire life, ergo they can work on that.”

I’ve been running for 35 years, but I’m now coming back from a plantar fasciitis injury, so my average weekly running mileage in the last 2-3 months has probably been considerably lower than my lifetime average. If you’re telling me that I can afford to run my lifetime average + 10% next week, that’s very good news indeed, since I’d like to try to requalify for Boston later this year. But I don’t think that’s how the 10% rule was intended: You’re only supposed to consider recent mileage. That’s why the rule as stated is too simple–hence my Impertinent Question.

“But there are some in the said group of people who almost certainly feel the same about those whose opinions contrast theirs. So in each one’s view, the world would have been ‘better’ without the other voice heard.”

Yes, but my question wasn’t whether they’d view it as better, but whether it actually would be better. Would you really want to live in the world that a convicted bank-robber, assuming he has served his sentence, views as optimal? (No guards in the lobbies, no security cameras, etc.)

“The answer is whatever Kurt Godel says ;)”

As you probably know, there are a lot of other famous self-referential paradoxes that were bandied around during Gödel’s era. One of my favorites gives rise to another Impertinent Question: “What is the smallest positive integer that can be defined in 25 words or less?”

“Omnipotent being is a logical paradox.”

Agreed! :slight_smile:

“seems like a bad link.”

Seems to be working now.

“it is still a selfish act because it puts the individual’s (short term) satisfaction in front of the welfare of others”

But wouldn’t it be more logical to define “selfishness” in terms of what will ultimately be good for the self? If one wants to condemn such activities, it seems to me that “shortsighted” or “egocentric” would be a more appropriate adjective. (“Egocentric” differs from “selfish” because the egocentric person doesn’t merely look out for himself but imagines that he (or she) really is the center of the universe and that other people don’t matter, not even to his own welfare.)

“They have gained their status partly by the virtue of all the history of their predecessors, and the people whose contributions have made their lives easier in the society.”

First, the wealthy individual can’t “give back” to deceased predecessors. Second, while it is true that he has benefited from others now living, it is probably equally true that those others have benefited from his own efforts. (A notable exception might be a person who inherited all of his wealth, and it’s only in such cases that the idea of “giving back to society” even makes a modicum of sense, IMO.)

“Depending on the source of the superstition, there could be differences.”

When I look up “superstition” in the dictionary, I don’t see any restriction as the source. Besides, “religion” doesn’t have to mean organized religion.

“You first have to implement a ‘free market.’ Can you argue that it ever existed?”

No, but unlike Omnipotent Being, at least the notion is logically coherent. If one existed, would it be possible to intervene into it twice?

“The only way out is to act absolutely randomly.”

Isn’t that take randomness to an extreme?

“I guess I am missing the wit on this one.”

Well, it’s frequently complained that Company X “hasn’t hired enough minorities,” even though it has hired more than two people.

“By paying debt, if you mean reversing the damages they have afflicted, then they sometimes are not possible to be inverted. Sitting in a cell, more than anything, should serve as a preventive measure; whether it does accomplish that goal is debatable.”

You’re correct that the damages cannot always be reversed, but it seems to me that the foremost goal of justice should be to do so where possible. Where it isn’t, any talk about a “paid” debt is nonsensical.

“The ends as properly chosen as they might be, may not have taken into account those, well-being of whom might be at stake to meet the ends. There is also always tensions between goals (Hegel’s anti-thesis), meeting one will inevitably give rise to the forces supporting the other and so on.”

I intended the phrase “properly chosen” to mean that the goals take into account everything that ought to be taken into account, and that they are worded to resolve possible conflicts among them in advance. (Think, for example, of how conflicts are resolved by Asimov’s wording of his Three Laws of Robotics.)

You might not be surprised to learn that I have a copy of Escher’s Drawing Hands on the wall in my living room. I love the title: “Drawing” is both a participle and a gerund, reflecting the basic ambiguity of the drawing.

So can God create a place in the past or the future where time travel is impossible? Can he then travel there on vacation?

Just curious, Have you read “Godel Escher Bach”? I think you will enjoy it very much.

http://www.upl.cs.wisc.edu/~bethenco/product-data-cache/0465026567_01_LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Yes, I read that with relish back in the 1980s. How do you think I got so warped? :wink:

Yes, but my question wasn’t whether they’d view it as better, but whether it actually would be better. Would you really want to live in the world that a convicted bank-robber, assuming he has served his sentence, views as optimal? (No guards in the lobbies, no security cameras, etc.)
No I don’t want to live in that world. But the means for preventing that from happening is convincing others about how bleak that view is. As Churchill said, “Democracy is a horrible system, unfortunately it’s the best we have got.”

But wouldn’t it be more logical to define “selfishness” in terms of what will ultimately be good for the self?
Maybe it is more logical that way. But what word do you use for referring to those who act solely based on their desire? (am I asking for a synonym for human?:wink: They probably justify the ultimate harm caused by their action by the momentary good (personal pleasure for example) that it causes. No one really knows what is ultimately good, and everyone’s view can be argued to be shortsighted to some extent.

In these two questions, you hinted at one of the dilemmas that I admittedly have. Is goodness relative or not? For the time being I am more inclined that it is. I am open to change though.

**First, the wealthy individual can’t “give back” to deceased predecessors. **

This “giving back” is a social and historical contract that we tacitly agree upon (note that we don’t have to, as we can always choose a secluded life) to allow the coming generation capitalize on what has been already accomplished. So while you cant give back to who is dead, you can continue the trend by raising the pedestal for who is to come next. As I said, looking from above, this whole scheme might seem meaningless, but that wasn’t the question.

When I look up “superstition” in the dictionary, I don’t see any restriction as the source. Besides, “religion” doesn’t have to mean organized religion.
My point is superstition, in general, can be self espoused and completely personal, whereas, more often than not, religion to be recognized as one requires more than just one reticent follower. In the sense that they both are not based on reason they are the same, so I have no problem if you want to pronounce the latter as a subset of the former.

I intended the phrase “properly chosen” to mean that the goals take into account everything that ought to be taken into account,
In that sense, then the goal includes achieving the desired results in an appropriate way in its definition. So I guess it justifies its means as it outlines the permissible trajectory to meet it.

Can God microwave a burrito so hot that he himself cannot eat it?

“As Churchill said, ‘Democracy is a horrible system, unfortunately it’s the best we have got.’”

I’ve never been sure just what Churchill meant by “democracy,” but personally I’m glad that our founders didn’t give us a pure democracy, but rather a republic with certain built-in majoritarian decision procedures and lots of checks and balances. I think it is essential that we remain wary of the pitfalls of majority voting. Although universal suffrage among law-abiding citizens is doubtless a good thing, I don’t think we should automatically assume that allowing convicted felons (even if they have completed their sentences) to vote is desirable, either practically or morally.

“No one really knows what is ultimately good, and everyone’s view can be argued to be shortsighted to some extent… Is goodness relative or not? For the time being I am more inclined that it is. I am open to change though.”

My own view is that there is an objective concept of good, rooted in human nature, somewhat along the lines set forth by Socrates. (I explain it on my website and may elaborate on it someday on this forum.) Furthermore, it is possible in principle for us to know that good, even if we make mistakes from time to time.

“you can continue the trend by raising the pedestal for who is to come next.”

I think we raise that pedestal just as much (and arguably much more) through our economic endeavors as we do through the kinds of altruistic contributions that people call “giving back to society.” It’s true that I do certain things (e. g., my website) that I hope will make my world better, even though they don’t return a monetary profit. I don’t do them to “give back” to society, though, but because I believe they are in my rational self-interest.

BTW, I appreciate the way you’ve engaged these Impertinent Questions. That’s the kind of discussion I was hoping to generate.

“BTW, I appreciate the way you’ve engaged these Impertinent Questions. That’s the kind of discussion I was hoping to generate.”

It’s a double pleasure. I get to think about what I wouldn’t normally do while practicing my English :slight_smile:

That may be the funniest Impertinent Question yet in this thread!

What spam filter settings do people who legitimately sell Viagra and Cialis for a living use? Or do people in the pharmacy business have to resort typing V!@gra, C.I.A.L.I.S., etc.?

(stephen wright) X (neal bortz) = (rob c in fl)

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#1. In order to obey the “RESUME SAFE SPEED” sign, do I first need to drive at an unsafe speed?

Along the same lines, I don’t understand why the traffic worker people post “END ROAD WORK” signs. Why would you protest your own job?