The image that NASA doesn't want you to see

NASA and the media won’t let you see this photo they took. WHY???

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And for those wondering how I got it. I was thinking about pancakes and got teleported to an IHOP where I was the only human around other than one other person wearing a space suit. It turns out that he is an astronaut and had been craving pancakes too. He had the photo on his iphone and shared it with me.

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How does the ocean stay up in that “wall” of water at the edges?

And where is the turtle and the elephants supporting everything?

I heard on the radio the astronauts have 78 types of tortillas.

I had no idea there were 78 types of tortillas. I could list maybe 5 if you include things like “tomato basil wrap” as a tortilla.

They also have crumb-less cookies, which sound terrible.

IDK if they have sushi, or flat coke.

cookie monster contemplates

cookie monster

It’s an infinity ocean.

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Exactly. Where do people think the founders of the pool company got their idea?

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This is a bit close to the bone…my flat-earther MIL is staying with us right now, and between Artemis and then more mundane things like the phases of the moon (especially the gibbous ones), her stubborn unwillingness to turn her brain on has me at wits’ end at the moment. I have to keep my fucking mouth shut to avoid turning homicidal.

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That has gotta be tough.

IRL, l make a point of engaging and talking with people with a wide range of views. I used to think that flat earthers were kinda rare. But, instead, l have found that the venn diagram of flat earthers and certain popular voting preferences is quite large indeed.

You may have some biases affecting your thoughts. I asked AI.

Using The Economist/YouGov poll (fielded 07/14/2019–07/16/2019) as an example: that survey asked whether “the Earth is flat” and reported responses by party ID. Combining “definitely true” and “probably true” gives about 11% of Democrats, 9% of independents and 10% of Republicans saying the Earth is (or probably is) flat. Using the poll’s party sample sizes (Dem ≈498, Ind ≈590, Rep ≈407), that works out to roughly:

  • Democrats ≈ 55 respondents (≈37% of self-identified flat‑earthers in the sample),
  • Independents ≈ 53 respondents (≈36%),
  • Republicans ≈ 41 respondents (≈27%).

So in that 07/2019 YouGov sample about 27% of those who endorsed a flat‑Earth response were Republicans.

Sure, but I can only report on the conversations that l have had with people that l talk with regularly IRL.

Also, not sure about AI slop and such, but l think that 2019 is almost “a century ago” in terms of the rate of spread of misinformation and random conspiracy theories.

there’s probably a distinction between correlation and causality there

my particular resident Flatter is Irish. I’ve noticed that the Irish generally have a strong and vocal distrust of The Establishment, and rightfully so, after however many centuries of being mucked around. she’s an absolute sucker for any conspiracy theory. it’s kind of an anti-establishment contrarian trap that makes her particularly vulnerable to these things.

I gave up engaging with her on the flat earth thing about 5 years ago. among other things, I’ve offered, multiple times, to send a cheap camera up in a weather balloon, but between her unwillingness to spend 30 seconds learning about optical distortion or perspective distortion, her conviction that the water in the bathtub Sure Looks Flat, and her belief that camera manufacturers would just be In On It anyway, I instead offered to strap her to a rocket on a one-way trip and have dutifully kept my mouth shut since then.

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That’s really the only solution, and is very generous of you.

But everyone knows that “they” have put special windows in the rockets that distort the earth to where it looks round. It is easy to see because one portion of the earth often appears to be in darkness while the other is in daylight.

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Yes, a good point. And I have no idea if it is correlation or causality.

But the venn diagram overlap of certain popular voting preferences and flat earth beliefs and ‘covid vaccines have microchips’ and ‘lizard people are among us’ and ‘UFOs are actually demons’ and you-name-it, these are all definitely a thing. It is a crazy, crazy world.

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note that I didn’t say I’d be strapping her -in- the rocket

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