You have to give Jack Kelly and his podcast some credit for the expansion he’s undertaking. Not a fan of his crossover with the PTN lot but the episodes of Triathlon Hour and Hayden Wilde are decent listens. The first two episodes with the coaches is also good. Both episodes, somehow bring up Long and Sanders, as they are omnipresent. It would be interesting to have those two talk and record it, as they are now self coaching, what are the challenges, what have they taken from previous experiences, etc.