Not to hi-jack your hijack, but google “Christian Choate”
Unbelievable cruelty to the extreme.
And to all you anti death penalty types, I dare you to defend sparing the lives of the killers…
Not to hi-jack your hijack, but google “Christian Choate”
Unbelievable cruelty to the extreme.
And to all you anti death penalty types, I dare you to defend sparing the lives of the killers…
It’s not so much about sparing the lives of killers, as it is about sparing the lives of the innocent. If you can guarantee that every person executed is guilty of the crime of which they have been convicted…
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/...e-cases-2004-present
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/...ed-possibly-innocent
But you can’t. And you can’t undo an execution when you’ve discovered the verdict was wrong.
After everything I have read I believe that multiple murders were carried out by multiple people, including Wayne Williams. Considering
the times and the panic the murders caused tagging all/most of the deaths on one person was the easy way out.
Williams was convicted of killing Nathaniel Cater and Jimmy Ray Payne. Cater I discuss above, where no less than 3 people allegedly saw him alive after Williams supposedly threw his body off the bridge. One of those was his neighbor who had known Cater for years.
Jimmy Payne, read this:
One very controversial situation was that in the case of Jimmy Payne, the Fulton County medical examiner had written that the cause of death was "undetermined."� That is, it was not determined that Payne was, in fact, murdered.� Recognizing the difficulty in prosecuting Williams for a death that was not clearly a homicide, the medical examiner conveniently changed his document to indicate “homicide.” Dettlinger points out that when confronted with the change in the death certificate – which subsequently allowed for Wayne Williams to be indicted in the Jimmy Payne case – the medical examiner said he “checked the wrong box” on the death certificate."� However, there is no box to check on the death certificate, only a place to type in the word “undetermined” or “homicide.”
The only “motive” police/prosecutor advanced was that Williams didn’t like black youth. Payne was 22 and Cater was 27, older than Williams, the alleged Atlanta CHILD murderer.
If you can guarantee that every person executed is guilty of the crime of which they have been convicted…
There are a lot of dead people out there with no justice, while a large number of murders are unsolved. Which is to say 50% of murdeders who have killed once are still on the street. I don’t buy the whole free Abu Jimal/innocent project bullshit and I do not agree that 1% of doubt is more than 99% of certainty
Not that it matters, but I live right next to the bridge where the last body was dumped and he was subsequently caught. There were also a few bodies that were dumped in the area as well. It’s gentrified substantially since those days, and the bridge was just re-built in the last two years. The old bridge sat about 15 feet lower than the new one and was in a rather isolated area just off of interstate 285, but just in the city limits of Atlanta. It was a good choice for a steak out for sure. No lighting on that stretch of road at all.
Here is a link to the bridge in google maps. Where you see the framework sitting for the new bridge is where the old two lane brige was located. Doesn’t have anything to do with guilt or innocence, just some historical significance.
http://maps.google.com/...922&t=h&z=17
The place near me where another childs body was found, is isolated as well, but may have been more active 30 years ago. Regardless, it’s all off the beaten path. Was then, and is now.
Those would have been scary days… and fwiw, I think he was guilty of most of those murders.
There are very few absolutes in life. But I know one of them, Wayne Williams did not kill most of those victims. I am not sure he killed a single child. I am not even sure he killed the 2 adults he was convicted of killing. Read some of the links I provided. This case was a mess from the start.
I will read through again, but the recent DNA evidence almost assures he was linked to some of them.
How do you explain is false alibi as to what he was doing in the area?
Did the murders stop after Williams was arrested?
Define “murders”. Did young, black children stop being killed in Atlanta? No. Did the media say they stopped? Yes. Was there any connection whatsoever to say that any of those murders were linked? No. Remember, a serial killer has certain traits. Certain “thumbprints” for lack of a better term. The list of kids attributed to WW died in a variety of ways, at a variety of times, in a variety of places in the city. There never was any real link between them, except some were found with carpet fibers that the prosecution said were rare but were in fact in about 90% of the housing projects and low-income housing in all of Atlanta. If you lived in certain areas in the city, chances are you had this style of carpet. Not to mention that the victims sometimes spent a week or more in water, so how in the hell were those carpet fibers going to stay on the body the whole time.
I just read some on the DNA stuff, wow I had not seen that. I have to say I have flipped back and forth through the years on this and may be flipping back again!
As for false alibi, I can’t imagine being a black man pulled over by white cops in the South 30 years ago and being asked why I was in an area I didn’t belong.