i experimented with tylenol codeine during a long 30 miler yesterday. i popped one pill about 3.5 hours into my 5 hour run, after i started hurting. this actually helped me gut it out and run faster during the last part of the run, and i’m thinking of trying this during a marathon or ironman. but i’m concerned it may have adverse effects during competition, where i’ll be running much faster.
in previous marathons, i’ve hit the wall with severe cramps around the 20 mile mark and actually have to walk. salt, fluids and gels do not help me at all.
anyone have experience with taking painkillers during a marathon or ironman?
cyclisto - can’t speak from experience, nor am I a physician, but I can tell you the one POSITIVE about taking T3 is that it’s top side effect is CONSTIPATION. Not something you really want, but maybe during a race it would prevent any untimely pit stops, etc? Anything else, well, you shouldn’t experiment with anything new on race day! The problem though is that it’s a controlled substance. So getting it may be an issue. There is another option with Ultracet or Tramadol. Ultracet is Tramadol plus Tylenol. Neither are controlled, and they have fewer side effects than T3 or the other “hard-core” pain meds.
I’d be surprised if the typical “pain killer” narcotics (codeine, hydro/oxycodone, hydromorphone, propoxyphene, etc.) were not on the WADA list of banned substances. I’m to lazy to look it up and wouldn’t do so myself (but I have used ibuprofen before in an endurance event). You can search for the myriad of threads that come up every 5-6 months about taking tylenol or ibuprofen during an IM (be prepared for some wild responses from philosophical to completely outrageous/uneducated to thoughtful).
ha! you ever pass a stone? It came out a week later. I know several people that have taken Vioxx quite often in Ironmans, though not a pain killer, same concept.
ha! you ever pass a stone? It came out a week later. I know several people that have taken Vioxx quite often in Ironmans, though not a pain killer, same concept.
You’re assuming he has a dick
Exactly, the meds can mask you pain, not to mention the rigors that the body goes through during an endurance race, additional medications can have greater negative effects on the body when used like this. It may stop the pain during your race, but you risk damage to the kidneys, liver, etc.
I shot up heroin and snorted coke of a stripper during the bike leg of an ironman one time, The run still sucked…Just joking, I agree with the person who said that it could mask a potentially serious injury. t3, codeine, Percocet, Demerol, Xanex, Oxycontin, etc,etc are probably a bit heavy to use during training and racing, If you hurt to the point that you need narcotics, then maybe you should rest instead. FWIW, I have known of a few ultra runners who swear by smoking dope during the later miles of a 100 mile or more ultra.
I use Advil in an Ironman. 2 on the bike at about half way. One 10km in to the run and another at ~25k. I’ve also experimented during a straight up marathon. More than anything it helps the back fatigue. The leg pain is still very much there.
Cheers,
Trevor
are you kidding? i take one and I am out of it! no way would I get ona bike after taking 2
Same here. I’m on 1 vicodin every 4-6 hours (generally 6) for my shoulder injury and I’ve been only occasionally conscious today.
I’d be surprised if the typical “pain killer” narcotics (codeine, hydro/oxycodone, hydromorphone, propoxyphene, etc.) were not on the WADA list of banned substances. I’m to lazy to look it up and wouldn’t do so myself (but I have used ibuprofen before in an endurance event). You can search for the myriad of threads that come up every 5-6 months about taking tylenol or ibuprofen during an IM (be prepared for some wild responses from philosophical to completely outrageous/uneducated to thoughtful).
The following are prohibited in competition:
** S7. NARCOTICS** The following narcotics are prohibited:** buprenorphine, dextromoramide, diamorphine (heroin), fentanyl and its derivatives, hydromorphone, methadone, morphine, oxycodone, oxymorphone, pentazocine, pethidine.**
There is a recent research work being done in our medical group that is tracing links of pain killers (even asprin, advil etc.) to ALS and other medical disorders. Credit Jon Blais for hooking us up with some older athletes now having problems with ALS and all kinds of GI problems from taking these meds in training and racing.
The studies thus far have not allowed us to reach any conculsions but the information is very interesting about the drugs themselves. It could be that this is the “normal” amount of people who should get these ailments statistically but it seems to have more substance.
