I am going to complete the entire scy meet program in one workout towards the end of summer. It comes out to 18 events and 5250 yards.
Anyone interested in participating?
50, 100, 200, 500, 1000, 1650 Free
50, 100, 200 Back
50, 100, 200 Breast
50, 100, 200 Fly
100, 200, 400 IM
Great idea, that sounds like a fun goal. Are you planning on doing it in that order, and with how much rest between “events”? The fly sets then 400IM will eat my lunch without significant fly work between now and then!
I’m not sure about order or timing. My first reaction would be to say complete in less than 2 hours and strategically order the events for your benefit?
I am open to suggestions for rules/format.
As much as I would like to say do it in order, I might even balk at finishing with that much fly.
I am going to complete the entire scy meet program in one workout towards the end of summer. It comes out to 18 events and 5250 yards.
Anyone interested in participating?
50, 100, 200, 500, 1000, 1650 Free
50, 100, 200 Back
50, 100, 200 Breast
50, 100, 200 Fly
100, 200, 400 IM
Less than 2 hours, should be doable for about any former swimmer, some might find 90 minutes is plenty (not me!). I think I’d tend to reverse the order in each stroke, so the longer distances are first, and break up the IM and Fly events by putting some freestyle or breastroke between. Of course the hardcore would argue that you have to do this order.
I’m gonna propose this to some of my masters buddies, see what they think.
1000 Freestyle
1650 Freestyle
400 Individual Medley
200 Freestyle
50 Breaststroke
200 Backstroke
100 Butterfly
500 Freestyle
100 Breaststroke
50 Butterfly
200 Individual Medley
100 Freestyle
50 Backstroke
100 Individual Medley
200 Butterfly
100 Backstroke
50 Freestyle
200 Breaststroke
This is the order of events for USMS nationals. Mixes it up nicely. Looks pretty brutal w the 1650 followed by 400IM. 200 Fly near the end.
5250 isn’t insanely long, but in this format, definetly interesting.
Fast as possible to complete - i’m in.
That’s kinda like that olympic set.
Swim all the olympic events, in order. (excluding WU/CD)
done.
Great Idea!!
If you are doing meters, substitute the 400 for the 500. Also, why not try and get 4 people to do it and add in relays? It may add a short break and a little fun! Find 8, 12 or 16 people and have a little race. Do it in the same order as National Champs, Olympics etc. Each day usually starts or ends with a relay and includes at least one event from each stroke or IM.
Good Challenge!!
This is a similar idea to the postal pentathlon that usms does every year in December.
This is the entry link from a few years back,
http://www.adms.org/meets/2005_2006/forms/2005_Postal_Pentathlon.pdf
I think the order from short course nationals is a good one.
Is there a standard SCM or LCM “meet program”? We don’t have SCY pools. Thanks…
I can remember doing the high school record board back in the day for that team, and we would throw ‘diving’ (ie. everyone jumps or dives off the board a couple times) in the middle of it. I actually figured out how to do an inward pike during one of those sets.
Yep, we used to swim all the events in order as a “fun” workout in high school.
I like it, and I think the masters nationals order is as good as any to follow…I propose that the 2 hour time limit is good, but you keep track of your times for a total…All races can be done with a dive, but all have to be finished in the 2 hours for this comp…We can then back out who was the fastest in strokes, best sprinters, AG’s, and a milliion other categories I can think of… I think we can pretty much make everyone a winner somehow that competes… Something like fastest 54 year old guy from CA, with a pacemaker category…
Keep us in the loop, but I’m in. I will need at least a month to get ready though, probably cannot do a legal 200 fly right now…I can get dan to add this to the challenge groups on the training log too…
so you’re saying record the “event” times, but not total time to complete? I can see that reasoning, but also like the idea of total time to complete entire schedule, including rest time between “events”. This adds a bit of strategic thinking, where to use rest and how much vs. putting out greater effort for some of the events. For example, I might sandbag the 50’s for extra rest, then work the longer “events” with more effort, remembering to save like 5 minutes for rest before that 200 fly!
Also, second that all events have to be swum legally, that means no dolphining entire lengths for fly, and no one-arm fly, except for 1 stroke allowed for passing other flyers in same lane, no front strokes during backstroke turns, etc.
Also, second that all events have to be swum legally, that means no dolphining entire lengths for fly, and no one-arm fly, except for 1 stroke allowed for passing other flyers in same lane, no front strokes during backstroke turns, etc.\
Absolutly it has to be legal, otherwise what is the point?? ANd by recording all your times, you automatically have the total time for the combined events…And you are right, within the 2 hour time limit, there is a stragedy on where and when to take your rest, that is the part that makes it somewhat a thinking event too. Just like a tri, you have to figure out paces, rest intervals, where to go hard, where to ssandbag, ect… You can do it faster than the 2 hours of course, but you just cut your own rest and of course will have slower race times, so no benifit to doing that. But you do have to be careful not to take too much rest and miss the cutoff too, so lots to think about beforehand, I love it!!!
This is the Masters National Short Course Yards Event Schedule. You may want to move the 1650 or substitute the 1500 if you are doing meters later in the schedule and the 500 yards would be a 400 meters as well.
Thursday, May 20, 2010 1. Women 1000 Freestyle 2. Men 1000 Freestyle 3. Women 1650 Freestyle 4. Men 1650 Freestyle Friday, May 21, 2010 5. Women 400 Individual Medley 6. Men 400 Individual Medley 7. Women 200 Freestyle 8. Men 200 Freestyle 9. Women 50 Breaststroke 10. Men 50 Breaststroke 11. Women 200 Backstroke 12. Men 200 Backstroke 13. Women 100 Butterfly 14. Men 100 Butterfly 15. Mixed 200 Freestyle Relay Saturday, May 22, 2010 18. Men 500 Freestyle 19. Mixed 200 Medley Relay 21. Women 100 Breaststroke 22. Men 100 Breaststroke 23. Women 50 Butterfly 24. Men 50 Butterfly 25. Women 200 Individual Medley 26. Men 200 Individual Medley 27. Women 100 Freestyle 28. Men 100 Freestyle 29. Women 50 Backstroke 30. Men 50 Backstroke 31. Women 200 Freestyle Relay 32. Men 200 Freestyle Relay Sunday, May 23, 2010 33. Women 500 Freestyle 35. Women 200 Medley Relay 36. Men 200 Medley Relay 37. Women 100 Individual Medley 38. Men 100 Individual Medley 39. Women 200 Butterfly 40. Men 200 Butterfly 41. Women 100 Backstroke 42. Men 100 Backstroke 43. Women 50 Freestyle 44. Men 50 Freestyle 45. Women 200 Breaststroke 46. Men 200 Breaststroke
This is the Masters National Short Course Yards Event Schedule
Due mainly to fear of failure I propose allowing shifting of up to 3 events out of this order, at discretion of each competitor/victim.
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Or make the first event, the 1000 free, the last event and start with the 1650 yards or 1500 meters. We would want the times to state yards or meters so we have a fair comparison. If you are doing meters, you do 1500 meters rather than the 1650 yards and the 400 meters rather than the 500 yards.
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I could go for starting with the 1650 and ending with the 1000, nice bookends to a fun filled workout! And I bet that just about everyone can find a yard pool, especially now that it is SCY season. It may not be your exact pool, but they are everywhere now. Most of the 50m by 25yd pools are set up as yards for the high school and college swim teams…
How about we pick out a 4 to 6 week period sometime at the end of the month here and have this challenge, sort of like the masters postal challenge. That way you can do it more than once if you really have some brain damage, or just want to put your name a little higher up the podium. Like I said before, we can do the gender/AG thing too, and even a clydesdale/orca division. Under 6ft/over 200lbs, over 6ft/220+??? I won’t even go to the womens division here, pitfalls everywhere…(-;
I want to see what Marky V can do for this, I bet not many could be close to him. Perhaps Potts, he was an ex IMer, but I think Marky has better speed in the distance events these days and he was a great flier, at least if you can believe the workouts he has posted up here lately…(-;
That is great…now what do we call this. The total yards is 5250. If you were to do this in a meters pool, you would do go from 1650 yards to 1500 meters, deducting 150 yards and the 500 yard free would go to 400 meters, deduct another 100 yards and you end with 5000 meters or 5K. You would just indicate if you were doing a 5K in a yards pool or Meters. Obviously you cannot compare the two as the distance is very different.
Some possible names…you have any?