ive been practising trying to do this with my shoes attached to my pedals already but ive been finding it pretty damned hard to get my feet into my shoes once ive got going. my shoes have two straps and a tounge. shimano something or others. could it be that my shoes are just really hard to do this in or am i just real unco?
Well, since you seem to uncoordinated to use your Shift key, it might be you.
There is a reason for all the tri specific shoes out there, they are easier to put on while riding. A single strap, closing from the outside in, and no tongue make it a lot easier to wiggle your toes and feet into your shoe while not looking. I use the Sidi T1’s, and they are very easy to get on.
Are you putting bodyglide or vaseline on the inner soles of your shoes?
Are you trying it in an indoor trainer? It seems to be a lot easier that way then trying it outside after you get good at it.
Also, remember, it isn’t faster in all circumstances.
dont have an indoor trainer yet…nah i havent used vaseline or bodyglide. i think it might be the design of the shoe?? the velcro straps and their positioning and rigidity of the tounge dont seem to help much…
anyway i generallyt do longer races.
How much benefit is there to doing this in a non-drafting situation? A few seconds? Seems like it would be a pretty trivial benefit in sprint/Oly races and virtually nothing in 1/2 IM/IM races… but correct me if I’m wrong.
yeah i know. haha it looks cooler tho.
How much benefit is there to doing this in a non-drafting situation?
I don’t know about time, but some of the worst road rash I’ve had in the last few years was the result of a wipe-out while running around a corner out of T1, in bike shoes. Not to mention the embarrassment of wiping out in front of a crowd, and finishing the race dripping blood all over everything. Since then I just leave the shoes on the bike. I don’t worry about the time, I’m just much more comfortable running through transition in bare feet, and getting in and out of the shoes doesn’t seem to cause me any problems. I think it really comes down to personal preference (and your ability to run in bike shoes )
Chris
The Aussies did a study on it and found that even the worst fumbling bumbling fool was faster putting their shoes on while riding. While you fumble around you feel slower but you need to remember that you are moving while the guy at the bike rack is stationary. That being said you need the right shoes and lots of practice at race speeds. Single velcro tri shoes(sidi, shimano) with no tongue are the only way to do it quickly. I used to use the Time tri shoes. Great shoes but 8/10 times the tongue would get folded under while I was jamming my wet foot in there. Makes for an uncomfortable ride! I think the biggest advantage is psychological. I come into T1 neck and neck with some guy, I grab my bike jump on cyclocross style and pedal away. I get a huge adrednaline rush knowing that my competition is still putting his shoes on and not even on his bike yet.
one other note. Old style speedplay x series pedals are not ideal for the shoes on bike transitions. The release mechanism is so light that while jamiing your foot in there and wiggling it around it is pretty easy to unclip. If your foot isnt in yet, the shoe will fall to the ground and you either have to go back for it or ride 40k barefoot on a 1 inch disc! make sure you are using speedplay zeros, looks, times, shimanos etc. If the pedals have adjustable release tension. set it pretty high to avoid the accidental unclip.
loop a thin rubber band around your frame and hook it to the pull tab of your shoes. this will hold them more less parallel to the ground run out of transition take a flying leap onto your bike and your off. when your foot hits the shoes the rubber band snaps and your feet are on top of your shoes. You can also use tape, but not duct tape.
If you can ever watch the ITU on tv those guys/gals do it right!
one more note of caution. The super light aero carbon seatposts are probably not the ideal setup for this type of transition. I doubt the designer took into account a 180+ lb guy landing with all his weight on the saddle. Macca actually broke his post in the Minneapolis race a couple years ago. It was a light weight aero carbon post.
Yeah, but once you’re in your shoes, how do you get your bike off the trainer and onto the bike course?
I didn’t think you were allowed to ride in transition, so do you have your bike on your trainer outside T1?
TriDork
Hmmmm… I’m still not really convinced.
If you and I came into T1 together (meaning you had the worst swim in your life, or started 5 waves behind me), you’d be on your way out a little ahead of me but it only takes me 5-10 seconds to get my shoes on, so it’s not like it’s a huge amount of time.**
The way I’ve always understood it was the point is to get out on the bike ASAP to catch the peleton, and if you’re a little slower while fumbling around getting your feet in the shoes you probably have some drafting benefit anyway.
I’d have to see the Aussie study to be convinced. I’m not saying people shouldn’t leave the shoes on the bike, but I doubt MOP/BOPers like myself need to be overy concerned about it.
** (This is assuming you’re standing around panting after nearly drowning and fumbling with your wetsuit for a couple of minutes - that way the only difference is putting on the shoes
I haven’t Tried that yet, but I am nervous about my valuables getting squished between my 180 lb body and my saddle–YIKES??? Any war stories about that. I’mm trying to get up my nerve, but my T1 times are so slow I guess I have to do something.
I had this problem back when I had shoes that had two straps. It was just too hard to get them in there while on the bike.
Next year I upgraded to the Shimano TR-01’s, one strap tri shoe where the strap opens out away from the bike instead of into, and got it on the first try. From that point on, I have always had the fastest T1.
But for now, spend a lot of time on the trianer noticing how your foot rests on top of the shoe. From there, find a place to grab that when you grab and pull it, the entire shoe opens up for your foot. By doing this you 1) open the shoe up for your foot and 2) keep the shoe in your grip so it doesn’t go swinging around once your foot leaves it. Good luck. *Depending on your shoe, this method may not work.
The whole shoe in the pedal, running through T-1 thing is highly overated and does not look cool. Think about it. Running through T-1 with your cycling shoes offers a nice ‘clickety-clack’ sound that will help get you in the rythm for the upcoming ride…like a metranome. Also, when walking/running with cycling shoes the calf muscle is ‘stressed’ and has a more ‘pronounced’ look to it. It looks very cool. So whether in real life, or in race photos, what looks cool will help you score chicks (or dudes) depending on your preference. What looks uncool will only leave you questioning youself.
that made me laugh, you are a fool!
i see where you got the second part of your name.
Keep it up!
My first bike shoes were 2 strap sidi’s and they were very tough to get into. I cut out the tongue and it was easier to get into. I never missed the tongue, not sure why it is there.
I just got the Shimano TR-01 shoes and boy are they easy to get on and off.
If I’m thinking about this right…its harder for the tall guys to slip the foot into the shoe while on the bike. yes…no…? Its alot further distance down to the shoe. I find i have to lean over way too far to do this. I’m 6-3 with a 37" inseam. Its a LONG way down to the shoe, especially for an old guy like me (49). While I’m fumbling with the shoe and strap … I could be hammering right past me if I already had the foot in the shoe. I’ve been putting on my shoes on in T1 for 14 years. If you only save 10-15 sec…I’ll pass you as you coast to put your foot into the shoe!!
I’ll watch in my next few races as I enter T1 and see if I pass them as they put the foot into the shoe while riding.