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Things are looking good for Florida, sorry big blue, you lose again 
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More proof that college football is seriously messed up. They lose by three to the #1 team in the nation on the road and stay at #2. Then they drop to #3 the next week, then the #2 team loses and the #4 team jumps over themâŚall without playing a game. What a joke.
Itâs a conspiracy I tell yuhâŚa SEC conspiracy!
Well, and Iâm really surprised about Gary Danielsen, but he was campaigning like crazy for Florida during last nightâs telecast. The reasons being given just all seem pretty cheap. Kind of like when Philip Fulmer voted Michigan fifth in the coaches poll in 1997 so Tom Osborne could get his #1 ranking on his way out.
Im glad UF is inâŚScrew UM, they had a chance already Holy crap the SEC is tough, as a Big 12 fan , I give it up to them
Glad USC got rolled as wellâŚthough I think they would have been killed by OSU if they would have gottrn to the BCS game. That would have been fun though seeing them get hammered in front of God and everyoneâŚthey havent looked good at all, John David JingleHeimerSchmidt Booty, is an average QB with gobs of talent around him and it was finally exposed âŚ
We get to go play the Blue Turfers in the Fiesta⌠Im not sure what to expectâŚthey are undefeated and have great stats but they have built them up playing La Tech, Sacramento State, Fresno State, New Mex. State, Idaho, and Utah St., etcâŚSo weâlll see.
Since the âanti-rematchâ sentiment seems to be what is carrying the day, it is for that reason and that reason only that I will say this:
I will be pulling for Ohio State to simply anhilate Florida. Put 50 on them, and go for two point converts(âbecause you canât go for threeâ). As much as I hate OSU, the more they make Florida look like a junior high team, the happier I will be.
If there was a Playoff would Michigan be part of the story? Given that games are only once a week the tournament would be only a few games and should be open only to Conference Champions.
Pac 10
Big 10(11)
Big 12
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Conference USA? WAC? Mountain West? Mid-America?
Independent (Notre Dame)
I just do not want to see any rematches, Not Ohio State Michigan, Not Michigan Notre Dame.
So then your primary goal for this game is * not* to match the two best teams in the country. Because it sometimes happens that those teams are in the same conference.
Funny how basketball can have rematches all the time and no worries, but have in football, and oh my godâŚ
If there was a Playoff would Michigan be part of the story? Given that games are only once a week the tournament would be only a few games and should be open only to Conference Champions.
Pac 10
Big 10(11)
Big 12
SEC
Big East
ACC
Conference USA? WAC? Mountain West? Mid-America?
Independent (Notre Dame)
I just do not want to see any rematches, Not Ohio State Michigan, Not Michigan Notre Dame.
If they went to a playoff it would either be based on the rankings or would be like the lower division playing 16 teams. The interesting thing is that Notre Dame would either have to join a conference in football or only have a shot at an at-large bid. The BCS is supposed to be about the two best teams and the âno rematchâ sentiment trumped that and screwed a team for finishing itâs season earlier then other teams. An absolute disgrace.
I agree with you. Now that itâs done lets hope Ohio State rolls over Florida and Michigan blows by USC so that the BCS has to put Michigan back up in the #2 spot right behind Ohio State.
The discussion really stops right here.
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Florida has a better record (more wins, same 1-loss)while playing the #1 ranked schedule in the country (Michigan was #3, USC #5). Shouldnât that be the END of the arguement?
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Michigan did not win its conference. Shouldnât that solidify the END of the arguement?
IMO, Michigan was screwed by Iowa, a pre-season BCS contendor that gave up on the season after they lost to Ohio State. Drew Tate and Co were suppossed to be a top 5 team, and were a bust. Penn State underperformed after losses, and thos etwo teams hurt Michiganâs strength of schedule.
I know Iâve typed it numerous times, but Florida played almost as many top 15 teams (4) than OSU, Mich, and USC COMBINED (5). Yet, people are talking about how tough Michiganâs and USCâs schedule is/was. USC played 1 top 15 team (#6 ND), Mich played 2 top 5 teams (#1 OSU, #2 ND), Florida played four.
As for the âthey already had their shotâ idea ⌠it wouldnât be the first time that a rematch occurred in the NC game. Florida beat FSU in the latest rematch game. I think having a conference title be a requirement eliminates a conference rematch in the NC, but certainly 1-2 could play twice if the goal is to get the BEST 2 teams together.
Honestly, with all the talk about undeserving Florida is, it makes me wonder how important the actual results of the season, outside of win-loss records really are? It seems as if people just vote their preference or gut, and ignore the facts. One can read through these threads and see people boast about USCâs strength of schedule, yet critisize Michiganâs and Floridaâs ⌠when in actually Florida and Michiganâs strength of schedule is ranked higher than USC.
Itâs like folks decide who they want to be #2, and THEN go look for evidence, rathern than looking at the evidence and deciding who is #2.
Iâm with ya! Of course as a Buckeye fan, I want Ohio State to lay 50 on Florida. But, I also want the Wolverines to beat USC as well. I donât think OSU will have too hard a time with the Gators, but USC can be a much tougher team (I think better than FL really), so MI had better have itâs A game on. Iâd also like to see the Badgers win big as poor WI has gotten very little respect this year (but I really have no idea how good they really are). Actually, the game I am most interested in seeing is the OK-Boise State game! How sad is that ⌠Stupid BCS âŚ
I think if UCLA can âget roughâ with USC, then Michigan certainly can.
The big challenge is, of course, âwhich team can stay/be âgame-readyâ after a month of not playing games?â Iâm concerned that Ohio State will have gone 53 days without a game.
FWIW, I think Oklahoma will blow Boise State away ⌠completely, with Adrian Peterson putting on a one man show titled âWhy I should be the 1st Pick Overall in the NFL Draftâ.
This is the way I look at it what if we had a playoff and they had the conference champions and some âwild cardsâ now say Michigan and OSU had played arguably the two best teams in the countryâŚbut they played in a semifinal round or round of 8âŚnow the final ends up being Florida and OSUâŚwould you still be complaining?? Because essentially with the way the system is now the whole season is a big playoff. Michigan had a chance to get to the title gameâŚthey lost. Thats it.
Because essentially with the way the system is now the whole season is a big playoff.
Except the semi-final game was decided by a âpopular voteâ. In a playoff, you know thereâs a chance for an upset. Thatâs part of it. Itâs why teams ar ranked to favor the best team.
If Michiganâs losing to #1 Ohio State on the road eliminated the Wolverines, then Florida losing to #11 Auburn should eliminate the gators (using the same logic). In truth, there isnât a team thatâs worthy of playing OSU for the title.
I would not be upset if Ohio State was simply declared the national champion, and Michigan and Florida played a bowl game to see whoâs #2. It doesnât seem fair that Ohio State SHOULD have to beat either of those teams.
Also, I donât want to USC play again. You donât lose to TWO UNRANKED teams and STILL play for second or third place.
The playoffs work the same in all other college sports. Rank the teams based on strength. Highest seed versus the lowest seed, etc. Sometimes thereâs upsets. Thatâs what makes a playoff exciting.
IMO, in a playoff you either have ALL teams be conference champions or ALL teams wildcards, not a mixture of both. With ALL the teams being conference champions it eleiminates the popularity contest and bullshit of deciding âwhoâs betterâ the #2 big 10 team, #2 SEC team #2 PAC-10 Team or the #1 Big East team. At that point itâs mostly guess work.
In your playoff scenario, no one would question Florida being in the tournament, and then if they won two games to get to the final, well, they did it on the field. Here they did it in the polls.
For the last month or more Florida has been the highest ranked SEC team. Meaning voters expected them to win the SEC. Knowing all of this, they still voted Michigan #2 after OSU won THE GAME. So after Florida beats Western Carolina, and wins the SEC(doing what they were expected to do), what have they done that all of a sudden makes them better than Michigan now? Are voters saying to themselves âOh shoot, we thought you were just playing some sandlot games, we totally forgot you had an SEC championship game that you could win.â
I wasnât a fan of Florida before, but I must say I defintely would have been able to live with USC for the simple reason that their coach didnât need to campaign.
Now explain how Michigan did not get screwed by losing by 3 at the #1 team in the and staying number 2, then dropping to #3, then having the #2 team lose and having the #4 team jump over themâŚwithout playing.
I agree that the big problem is with the CURRENT system there is no team that really should be able to play OSUâŚI guess the only the team that could make a case is Boise just because they havenât lostâŚalthough I do NOT think they should just because of the teams they have had to play. I donât think its possible to find a system that will really ever be fairâŚthere will always be one or two teams that deserve to play and get left even in a playoff system. Just look at the college basketball tournament every yearâŚthey have 65 teams and there is always complaining from the bubble teams about being left out. Imagine what would happen if you had two BIG 10 teams go undefeated but one got left out of a playoff.
The case could be made that whoever got left out of the NC game âgot screwedâ. Thatâs not the point Iâm making. Weâre basically discussing âwhich team should get reamed the leastâ.
This system sucks. It was a popularity contest that would have voted USC above both Florida AND Michigan. Michigan hasnât played since Nov 18 ⌠in a âwhat have you done for me latelyâ society, they got forgotten. USC beating of #6 ND at home received much more hype than Michiganâs drubbing of then #2 ND at South bend. Talk about BS.
There has to be something to decipher between Michigan and Florida, because a playoff would just make too damn much sense.
For some itâs the quality of opponent that beat them: Ohio State is better than Auburn => Michiganâs in.
For others itâs who played a tougher schedule: Florida was 1, Michigan 3 => Floridaâs in.
For others, itâs who won their conference => Floridaâs in.
For others itâs âwho would win if they played?â => IMO, Michiganâs in.
Thereâs no universal criteria for the polls and it comes down to a popularity/preference vote ⌠which I am not fond of.
The âwe donât want to seee a rematchâ excuse thatâs being played Waaaaay too much is just crap, crap, crap. We might as well just have a âvote em offâ type of weekly fan vote that eliminates a designated teams per week, until weâre left with 3 and then just 2 after the last week. Itâs dumb. But, it serves itâs purpose by keeping control of college football monies in the hands of those that run the power conferences. Iâve gone on about this hopelessly unchangable scenario already.
I know I donât want to see OSU & Mich split 1-1 and then one of them be named âchampionâ. I know I donât really want to see OSU play Florida. I know I donât want to see USC or ND play in a BCS game. One lost to TWO unranked teams, the other was blown out by two BCS teams.
In my mind, Ohio State has already earned the title (beat two #2 teams already this year), and Iâve essentially moved on to NFL football and the playoff scence. Iâll watch the college football game when it comes on. I couldnât give two poops for the other bowl games. I REALLY donât care to see USC and/or ND play again this year.
I am from Florida, and my son has his sites set on UF, so I am happy about this, but Erik, you are just so darn MEAN.