No race wheels. Need a set of tires for training and racing. What do you suggest?
Continental Grand Prix 4000S
Close to the Michelin Pro Races in rolling resistance but I found they last a lot longer and offer better flat protection.
Continental Grand Prix 4000S
Close to the Michelin Pro Races in rolling resistance but I found they last a lot longer and offer better flat protection.
For the second time in 2 days, I’ll second a Conti 4000S vote - I really, really like these tires. I’ve also had good luck with Michelin Krylion Carbons.
I got to say Grand Prixs as well. I’ve ridden them for the past year for racing, training, and comuting (my commute usually has tons of glass on it.) They have always run great.
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That is sooooo cute…
And in case you’re in doubt, another vote for Conti GP 4000s!! They’re basically the best non tubular tire ever, for any situation.
And if you get them from Pro Bike Kit, they’re not even that expensive.
And in case you’re in doubt, another vote for Conti GP 4000s!! They’re basically the best non tubular tire ever, for any situation…
Well, maybe…except for that pesky 0.00313 Crr bit.
http://biketechreview.com/tires/images/AFM_tire_testing_rev8.pdf
My apologies, I guess some of us equate “the best tire” with things like “handling” and “feel” and “durability” in addition to rolling resistance when considering an all-purpose tire 
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I really liked th Continental GP4000. I now like even better the Continental GP4000S. Propably the best all around tire you can find.
Fred.
Another vote for the Conti GP 4000S
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Well, maybe…except for that pesky 0.00313 Crr bit.
http://biketechreview.com/...ire_testing_rev8.pdf
Hadn’t seen that before - thanks for posting.
That testing was no doubt a lot of work and is good information to be sure. But with an ambient temp fluctuation of +/- 15 degrees acknowledged across the tests and the variable nature of counting on a human to set up and power the “test engine” on a set of rollers over many days of testing… is that really considered “the gospel” on Crr calculations?
That testing was no doubt a lot of work and is good information to be sure. But with an ambient temp fluctuation of +/- 15 degrees acknowledged across the tests and the variable nature of counting on a human to set up and power the “test engine” on a set of rollers over many days of testing… is that really considered “the gospel” on Crr calculations?
Sure, any test has limitations. And, you’ve noted some good ones about Al’s protocol.
Nevertheless, I think it’s just about the best freely available Crr information around…and a lot of the ST Engineering geek squad would agree. 
I think when the argument really only brings up two tires, the Conti and Michelin, then you can be assured that either will serve your needs. I’ve use the Michelins to good success before, but they are not super long lasting tires. They can also be eBayed for about $10-15 per pair less than the 4000s so that sort of balances out the longer wear issue of the Conti’s to some extent.
Chad
Nevertheless, I think it’s just about the best freely available Crr information around…and a lot of the ST Engineering geek squad would agree.
Certainly agree… on both counts.