Simoni the activist . . . who knew?

Inconceivable!

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

damn…someone beat me to it…you can never trust a Sicilian when death is on the line (I wear a speedo must be a Sicilian)

Today I was watching GIRO from RAI and they said that Cannondale made a very light bike for the giro but it was under 6.7 Kilos ( they said that is the minimum weight for a bike )…

By the way,

 I saw again they giving way the helmets before the last hill.... Do they change all the gear for each stage ????

I think the cyclists are allowed to hand their helmets off to their team cars before (maybe it’s during) they head up hill. The thought is that they are less likely to suffer a high speed crash going uphill than they are going downhill…and helmets get too hot when climbing. To answer the question…no they do not change all their gear for each stage but they can (and do) change on the fly during a stage. Some will discard helmet/wind jackets etc before a climb on a hot day…but they also have to do the opposite when they get to the top.

The minimun bike weight thing is something the UCI (boo hisss) implemented to make a more level playing field. Poorer pro teams just could not afford the low weight at all costs game and the UCI wanted to correct that. They set an absolute minimum weight for all bikes…and Gilberto Simoni’s Cannondale during the Giro last year did not meet the minimun (he actually glued brass weights to his top tube to make the weight cut). This bike is his protest to UCI to lower the minimum weight requirements to allow his bike. Don’t bet on it happening too soon, the UCI takes seconds to decide to make a new rule…but years to ammend them.

Nope, the rule is they are allowed to take their helmets off if the stage finishes with a hill longer than 5k.

Actually the idea of having a minimum weight for bikes is very good in my opinion. Not to make a financially level playing field, but to make cycling safer. Its possible to make a ridable bike at 4 kilos, but the risk would be very big. Some riders would be willing to take that risk (not mounting a rear brake, drilling holes everywhere, using wheels with too few spokes …) but they would force the others to follow.

It doesnt take a lot of money to make a light bike, but it takes a lot of stupidity to ride it down the alps. I am afraid, this kind of stupidity is available and a rule to prevent the madness is a good idea.

I think that 6,7 kilos is very light already, really no reason to go a lot lighter. Ruling every aspect of a bike makes the rules very complicated, giving a minimum weight helps to rider to ask for the best you can get at 6,7 kilos an this is a stiff and safe bike. I rather watch a TDF with people going down the mountains on reasonably safe bikes.

The Jail Break kit today looked great. Nice to see not only Cipo can have some fun in the peloton. No joke at all in the last km. We may have just met the new Armstrong of the future. And his name is similar to Colnago. G

The idea behind the weight rule is OK, but it really just shows the lack of sophicstication in the bike industry. In any other industry there would be madatory tests that products would have to pass. The bike industry does not have meaningful tests like this. And so just putting a minimum weight limit to make sure stuff doesn’t get too light is the next best. But I would rather rider a 6.7kg Cannondale (or a 6.4kg Cervelo as we can build for CSC) than a 6.8kg bike from most other manufacturers. But it doesn’t really matter, it means the CSC riders can ride with deeper wheels than the competition.

"But it doesn’t really matter, it means the CSC riders can ride with deeper wheels than the competition. "

I was wondering about this - so the UCI rule is that the frame can be superlight (less than a kilo), so long as the complete bike is over 15 lbs? It shouldn’t be hard to get any bike over 15 lbs with a set of Mavic Cosmics on it.

But that begs the question - if a rider punctures and gets a wheel lighter than a Cosmic as a replacement, taking the bike under 15 lbs, is the bike now illegal?

Exactly, that’s why the rule doesn’t really work. And on top of that, plenty of 2kg frames break too, thee is a little bit more to design than just frame weight.

Let the Princess Bride continue…

They are not riding ROUS’s but COUS’s. Cannondales Of Unusual Size. hehe!

My name in Indigo Mantayo (sp)…You killed my father…prepare to die

Love the movie… as you wish!

Inigo Montoya
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Since when are cannoli’s illegal???

BTW: There are even better PB lines in S. Morgenstern’s text, such as this description of Florin in the First Chapter

*The land of Florin was set between where Sweden and Germany would eventually settle. (This was before Europe.) In theory, it was ruled by King Lotharon and his second wife, the Queen. But in fact, the King was barely hanging on, could only rarely tell day from night, and basically spent his time in muttering. He was very old, every organ in his body had long since betrayed him, and most of his important decisions regarding Florin had a certain arbitrary quality that bothered many of the leading citizens. *

*Prince Humperdinck actually ran things. If there had been a Europe, he would have been the most powerful man in it. Even as it was, nobody within a thousand miles wanted to mess with him. *

*The Count was Prince Humperdinck’s only confidant. His last name was Rugen, but no one needed to use it–he was the only Count in the country, the title having been bestowed by the Prince as a birthday present some years before, the happening taking place, naturally, at one of the Countess’s parties. *

*The Countess was considerably younger than her husband. All of her clothes came from Paris (this was after Paris) and she had superb taste. (This was after taste too, but only just. And since it was such a new thing, and since the Countess was the only lady in all Florin to possess it, is it any wonder she was the leading hostess of the land?) Eventually, her passion for fabric and face paint caused her to settle permanently in Paris, where she ran the only salon of international consequence. *

*For now, she busied herself with simply sleeping on silk, eating on gold and being the single most feared and admired woman in Florinese history. If she had figure faults, her clothes concealed them; if her face was less than divine, it was hard to tell once she got done applying substances. (This was before glamour, but if it hadn’t been for ladies like the Countess, there would never have been a need for its invention.) *

In sum, the Rugens were Couple of the Week in Florin, and had been for many years…

And this description of Buttercup’s parents (also from the First Chapter):

*The father made a quick finger point. “Look–” *

*“You look; you know how.” Buttercup’s parents did not have exactly what you might call a happy marriage. All they ever dreamed of was leaving each other. *

*Buttercup’s father shrugged and went back to the window. “Ahhhh,” he said after a while. And a little later, again, “Ahhhh.” *

*Buttercup’s mother glanced up briefly from her cooking. *

*“Such riches,” Buttercup’s father said. “Glorious.” *

*Buttercup’s mother hesitated, then put her stew spoon down. (This was after stew, but so is everything. When the first man first clambered from the slime and made his first home on land, what he had for supper that first night was stew.) *

*“The heart swells at the magnificence,” Buttercup’s father muttered very loudly. *

*“What exactly is it, dumpling?” Buttercup’s mother wanted to know. *

“You look; you know how” was all he replied. (This was their thirty-third spat of the day–this was long after spats–and he was behind, thirteen to twenty, but he had made up a lot of distance since lunch, when it was seventeen to two against him.)

I believe she was the queen of putresence, not pestulence, either way, it’s all good. A great movie. Mr. Tibbs sure has good taste.

ANCIENT BOOER
Your true love lives and you
marry another –
(to the crowd)
– True love saved her in the
Fire Swamp, and she treated it
like garbage. And that’s what she
is, the Queen of Refuse! So, bow
down to her if you want. Bow to
her. Bow to the Queen of Slime,
the Queen of Filth, the Queen of
Putrescence. Boo! Boo! Rubbish!
Filth! Slime! Muck! Boo! Boo!

Glad to help.

Now why would a guy like that have a “legalize my cannabis” sticker on a perfectly good Cannondale? :slight_smile:

Pink and red? Fashion faux pas supremo! Isn’t looking good more important than going fast? Back off and aim for second if you’re on a red team.

You’re all trainspotters! Go for a ride for gods sake! :slight_smile:

I mean really, “kappa”? girls on his shorts, tire pressures? sloppy stickers. Bloody trainspotters!