Anyone wear their garmin for the swim? My time was very pedestrian, couple minutes slower than it should have been, was a bit bummed coming out of the water seeing the clock for a wetsuit legal flat water no current swim, but then looked at results and AG placing was about normal. FOP guys went the usual 25 minutes, then there was a bit of a drop off. Anyone have the data?
I hit every buoy basically right on so it wasn’t my typical poor navigation…
2345 yards (why yards, I have no idea) is what my 910XT said.
I think I was the only one that didn’t have a wetsuit (shame on me for not believing that somebody would drop the thermostat to 20 feet underwater to get that elusive reading, but whatever), so my swim was a slow 41:xx. I suck at swimming, so was okay with that time. Comparatively, my best ever is 35:xx at BSLT 70.3 in a wetsuit and regularly swim 37:xx at Oceanside in a wetsuit.
Hope that helps.
Thanks, If accurate, that extra couple hundred yards would account for what I thought it should be time-wise
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A few data points.
http://www.strava.com/activities/203922918
http://www.strava.com/activities/203875545
http://www.strava.com/activities/204053816
http://www.strava.com/activities/203854125
http://www.strava.com/activities/203883180
http://www.strava.com/activities/203851263
They all have it as being long.
A few data points.
http://www.strava.com/activities/203922918
http://www.strava.com/activities/203875545
http://www.strava.com/activities/204053816
http://www.strava.com/activities/203854125
http://www.strava.com/activities/203883180
http://www.strava.com/activities/203851263
They all have it as being long.
Last dude apparently cut the course 
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2329 yards for me as well - http://connect.garmin.com/activity/606674559
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Thanks, If accurate, that extra couple hundred yards would account for what I thought it should be time-wise
My one friend swam with in minute. of her last 3 1.2 mile swims. …Garmin almost always reads long for the swim for two reasons. One, the way gps is read with wrist coming out of water, DC Rainmaker I think addressed this. Two, no one swims straight :o ) Hope this helps, not trying to the say the course was not long, just some info…take it or leave it
Thanks, If accurate, that extra couple hundred yards would account for what I thought it should be time-wise
My one friend swam with in minute. of her last 3 1.2 mile swims. …Garmin almost always reads long for the swim for two reasons. One, the way gps is read with wrist coming out of water, DC Rainmaker I think addressed this. Two, no one swims straight :o ) Hope this helps, not trying to the say the course was not long, just some info…take it or leave it
I know gps is relatively accurate… I was also only 2 or so minutes off what I “should” have done.
But still going with course is long The only two things that could explain my time (slow for me) vs. AG placing (high) is either (1) long course or (2) the fast guys in M 45-49 didn’t wear wetsuits. I was in the earlier awa wave so can’t comment on the second possibility.
Whatever it was, I love swimming in Lake Mead
I did the old full Silverman, and the swim was great. That course though the bike started with a 3/4 mile up hill…hope you had a great time
I had 2,257 yards.
What I found surprising was that both of my Garmin’s never reached the 4,272 elevation gain that was stated on their site (thats def not a complaint!).
Garmin 510 - 3,661 ft elevation gain
Garmin 910 - 3,917 ft elevation gain
Chris, I only wore a wetsuit vest, and my swim was considerably slower than normal for that distance. I’d love to think the course was long rather than me getting slower!
I did 39:40 which is about a minute slower than normal for me. I thought I was pushing it, but it felt like the last leg was dragging. But I suck at swimming also, and I came out where I usually do.
For what it’s worth, I swam within about 40 seconds of three of my other 70.3s this year. Not sure on the GPS data though.
I had 2,257 yards.
What I found surprising was that both of my Garmin’s never reached the 4,272 elevation gain that was stated on their site (thats def not a complaint!).
Garmin 510 - 3,661 ft elevation gain
Garmin 910 - 3,917 ft elevation gain
I expected to swim around 30.xx based on all my recent swimming (also swam 30.xx at Tremblant 70.3 WC’s) and was a touch over 32 minutes at Silverman.
On the elevation front, my garmin had over 1300m (I did not check yet after the race), but I saw 13xx during the race, which puts things at around 4300 ft. I was thinking it was the first course that WTC advertises to be what it truly is…every other hilly race, they understate the elevation.
I’ll eventually get to this…took the red eye flight home post race from Vegas and came straight to work, so I have a bike case filled with dirty smelly stuff and assorted bike parts and electronics that will be sorted through after dinner today!!!
Thanks, If accurate, that extra couple hundred yards would account for what I thought it should be time-wise
Chris, while my Garmin says 2050m, it always reads a bit long
Tremblant WC read 2043m and the two times were within 15seconds
I suspect the course was right.
What were the fastest swim times on the day? And were they fast swimming pros? If the lead swimmers went around 23+ minutes, then swim was close enough. Unless it was Andy Potts, but apparently he has something else to do this week. (-;
And everyone keep in mind that if you usually swim in salt water, that will make your swims a bit faster, all things garmin being equal.
Top four pros went 23:5x. I am just curious as I went 31:2x but was 9th M45-49. Seems slow
My Suunto showed 1.35 miles and I know I was wide on most buoys.
What were the fastest swim times on the day? And were they fast swimming pros? If the lead swimmers went around 23+ minutes, then swim was close enough. Unless it was Andy Potts, but apparently he has something else to do this week. (-;
And everyone keep in mind that if you usually swim in salt water, that will make your swims a bit faster, all things garmin being equal.
I like when guys like Andy Potts or Gomez are in the swim. Then we can take all the debate out of the post race “was it long or short”. Just using our deltas to their swims sorts out the debate. Monty, question for you…is sleevesless wetsuit a touch slower than sleeved, mainly because the “size of the paddle” on the forearm, or because the upper arm is more buoyant, kind of forcing you into a higher elbow position? I swam ~ 90 second slower than at Tremblant, but 90 seconds seems like way high…but it could be as simple as I was out of shape (relative) for Silverman, where I biked 10W lower than Tremblant and ran 3.5 min slower too (OK, hotter, but I’d say easier run course). Maybe it is an simple as my engine was just not putting out as much in the swim. In Tremblant I was ~ 8 min behind Gomez…Silverman, 8 min behind the local pros, so probably the swim was accurate, and I was just slower across the board.
Sorry guys, i just had a look at the few pro times, and the swim looks legit. There was no big pack to push a really fast pace, yet there were several guys in the 23’s, which is exactly where they ought to be. And they are not really known to be off the front pack swimmers, just journeyman front pack guys without a great puller. You will have to try and figure out why this swim seemed slow to you, maybe go back and look at the times you are comparing to, they might have been fast or short to begin with.