Sign or Veto?

Place your bets.

Veto.

Gonna need a little more context.

sign and then 2 to 4 weeks later will issue a tweet/statement that is completely contradictory to what he signed

-kinda like when he stood next to Ryan and Scalise and praised the house republicans when they passed a Health Care bill, and then later said that that the bill was mean

edit: I assume Sphere was talking about the Russia sanctions bill - but really my prediction is about any bill that crosses his desk. He will sign the bill because he wants to be part of something popular (almost like Zelig), but then at some point, the last person to talk to him will say something negative about the bill/law and he will tweet something completely contradictory.

Gonna need a little more context.

Is Trump going to sign the Russia sanction bill that Congress just dumped on his desk, I think.

Gonna need a little more context.

Is Trump going to sign the Russia sanction bill that Congress just dumped on his desk, I think.
Ah, thanks. There is a third choice, let it sit for however many days it takes for it to pass without his signature.

It has a veto-proof majority, so does he sign it or veto and make them pass it anyway?

I’m going to bet that he’ll see it as a chance to look tough, and they were wise to include sanctions on North Korea and Iran, so he’ll sign it.

But will the Russians leak the pee pee video in response?

First major bipartisan bill to reach his desk, restricts his ability to lift or alter Russian sanctions. Passed 98-2 in the Senate, 419-3 in the house.

A resounding vote of no confidence, basically.

Of course he’ll veto it.

Gonna need a little more context.

Is Trump going to sign the Russia sanction bill that Congress just dumped on his desk, I think.
Ah, thanks. There is a third choice, let it sit for however many days it takes for it to pass without his signature.

Do you really think he knows about that? Or would believe Priebus if he told him?

He’ll sign as his proof of no Russian connection. The rubes will buy it. Then go after mueller even harder. But as everything else this pos does it will fail.

Whatever the President decides, Russia has already responded.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/28/europe/russia-us-sanctions/index.html

Whatever the President decides, Russia has already responded.

http://www.cnn.com/...sanctions/index.html

Understanding that you may not be able to say, I’m wondering if this affects you given what you’ve told us in the LR about your next career step. Hope it doesn’t scramble your plans too much.

"*Russia’s Foreign Ministry *demanded Friday that the United States cut the number of diplomatic staff it has in Russia and said it would seize two US diplomatic properties, in a sharp response to a new sanctions bill passed by the US Congress a day earlier.

The order – which affects the US Embassy in Moscow and consulates in St Petersburg, Yekaterinburg and Vladivostok – would reduce the number of US diplomatic and technical staff to 455, the same number Russia has in the US, by September 1."

I was reading this morning that the Whitehouse came out with a line that said Trump might veto the bill for the purpose of getting stronger sanctions. Then of course, they will keep using the veto with the intent of never actually having anything in place. Members of Congress aren’t going to fall for that ruse.

I think he has no choice but to veto the bill. The Russians aren’t getting what they wanted from Trump.

<<The Russians aren’t getting what they wanted from Trump.>>

I don’t know about that. A significant portion of the US believes Trump’s presidency isn’t really legitimate, Congress is mired in dysfunction, and the White House is consuming itself in an orgy of backbiting. Your comment assumes Moscow wanted a marionette, when they may have wanted (or be satisfied with) an adversary so busy with internal strife that it weakens its ability to coherently project power and advance agendas on the world stage.

Actually, you are correct. Russia’s goal is to weaken democracy and make our system of government appear inferior and in that regard, they are incredibly successful.

Thanks Comrade.

Actually, you are correct. Russia’s goal is to weaken democracy and make our system of government appear inferior and in that regard, they are incredibly successful.

Thanks Comrade.

Sure thing. We in the West must…

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Sign. There’s no pathway to victory from a veto. Only humiliation.

The Russians aren’t getting what they wanted from Trump.

you sure about that? The way I see it, Russia wants the US at the best to be in turmoil and not getting anything done, at worst, civil war. I would say they are likely ok with how it is playing itself out so far.

The Russians aren’t getting what they wanted from Trump.

you sure about that? The way I see it, Russia wants the US at the best to be in turmoil and not getting anything done, at worst, civil war. I would say they are likely ok with how it is playing itself out so far.

The sanctions bill passed with huge majorities i both parties. So the one thing significant thing that the Congress actually got done was bad for Russia.

Russia I assume, has concrete goals: reduced sanctions, free reign in Ukraine, free reign in Syria. Turmoil is an end to a goal, not a goal in itself. Putin is not Batman’s Joker, just wanting to cause chaos. He has an explicit geopolitical strategy. And it’s possible that the combination of Russia-Trump overplayed their hand.

The actions today by Russia with respect to U.S. properties and staff in Moscow is a delayed response that everyone expected Russia to make immediately when Obama ordered the same thing to Russian property/staff in the U.S. The fact that the action was taken now I think is genuine displeasure over the actions of the U.S. Congress.

Gonna need a little more context.

Is Trump going to sign the Russia sanction bill that Congress just dumped on his desk, I think.
Ah, thanks. There is a third choice, let it sit for however many days it takes for it to pass without his signature.
Unless Congress is adjourned, in which case it becomes a pocket veto. Not saying they’d do it, but Congress could close shop just to force Trump to sign the thing or look really bad.

If he does nothing for 10 days then it becomes law which would allow him to avoid the humiliation of his veto being overridden, and also let him tell the Russians “hey I didn’t sign the thing there’s nothing I can do”.

Sign. There’s no pathway to victory from a veto. Only humiliation.

Trump has demonstrated time and again that an actual victory is not needed to claim victory. He doesn’t accept humiliation and defeat.