Ok, so I’m falling apart and I need a little help figuring out what this is and how to treat it. Ankle is still jacked but under control, had my leg slammed in the car door the other day, not helping out any, and today my shoulder is KILLING me. Could have done without that.
Started Monday while lifting. Could feel it doing Bench press but wasn’t that bad. Pain in front of right shoulder on flat bench. Flys were ok.
Last night I could feel it while chillin in bed, no big deal right? today while lifting, or trying to lift, it KILLED. Swam this morning before lift and it was just fine. Bench press was TOTALLY out of the question. also shot hoops a bit and it was fine for that.
Movements that hurt: Bench press, ouch. If I hold a fist in front of my chesst, arm @ 90deg, and push up against my other hand…wicked ouch. most other movements are OK.
From an anatomy view, the shoulder is a complicated ball and socket joint that involves muscles, bursa and ligaments, any that could be the issue. Often the treament is the same. Try rest and ice initially. If that doesn’t work go see your local PT or chiro for some ultrasound, massage, ART, etc therapy.
This is just too broad to give an accurate diagnosis online. I’ll guess it could be an acute tendinitis or bursitis.
It feels more structural. like something is torn or broken or something. Its really just that one movement that bothers it so I’m hoping to figure out what part it torn or whatever before I hand over the dunklers for a PT. Daddy’s got bills to pay you know.
Just reaching. Haveing a REALLY bad day as well. Managed to run over my phone…among other things.
You are not having a good day at all. It can only get better! You should go to your Dr., I hope you have a good one.
I would watch out for too much PT. I have shoulder problems from a bulging disc and the PT was all too happy to teach me exercises… for months. My best results have been from a PT that acts more like a chiropractor. Trying to get through this stuff is like getting through a maze.
Try two tests: 1) arm by your side and lift up as high as you can to the lateral (side) axis. It may hurt in the arc but can you get it right up to your lower arm near your ear?
If too painful for yourself to do ask somebody to move you through the arc of motion and you remain passive.
It’s very highly unlikely anything is broken or dislocated but #2 would suggest this if you don’t have full range of motion. Test #1 would likely suggest an acute bursitis/tendinitis problem.
Ice it and take it easy. If not any better within 48 hrs see somebody about it.
you can’t really diagnose it over the net…get it checked before scar tissue adhesions lock it down and it bothers you WORSE down the road. Deal with the injury today.
In the meantime, ice, elevation, rest is not a bad idea. I would play the safe side and place ice at the base of the neck and front of that arm where it hurts. Base of the neck to help with any of the nerves that might be going out towards the brachial plexus (and God forbid in case you did something to the neck) and of course the obvious point of pain. It is possible an OLD injury is reactivated, or it could just be a brand new injury. The OBVIOUS is avoid any kind of shoulder work/aggravation until it gets looked at. Just because something isn’t broke doesn’t mean it is safe to play with it.
Please just get checked. Just because PAIN goes away doesn’t mean you are better. Pain is your bodies’ protection mechanism. After awhile you can suppress pain and still be injured.
I am biased, I would do Chiropractic/Physio/Massage/Art.
Even arm straight out in front, pushing up against ledge, no pain. bend the arm in and LOOK OUT.
Standing against a wall pushing arm out, no pain.
spining arm in circles forward and backward, no pain at all.
swinging arms Michael Phelps pre race style, no pan at all.
Even doing pushups, no pain.
No tenderness to the touch at all.
It almost feels like I am about to rip the ball straight out of the shoulder when I do the ONE movement with resistance. Fist about a foot directly in front of chest, elbow out and puching straight up against other hand.
bend the arm in and LOOK OUT. === is the elbow going in towards the center, or out away from the body? This would only help in figuring out which tendon might be involved. From the words it almost sounds like transverse ligament, yet initially I was thinking latt tear or deltoid bursa–I would get it looked at in person.
Serious about getting work done asap on it. I work with patient’s with old injuries everyday. One person it has taken close to 2 yrs because all they do is go out over and over again and re-injure then come back when frozen for a month. Don’t you become this patient.
I dont know what “cyclical abstinence” is but never, and I mean NEVER use that word in a post to me again. Ya’ll saw what happened when P-funk (my GF) went to France for a week. Poor KAJ and trailbait had to bear the brunt of my online flirting. Feel bad for the girls.
Daddy needs his lady. Daddy likes his lady. Mommy looks goooood!
I just popped my shoulder simulating your movements, and I still can’t grasp the exact angle–which makes a HUGE difference in what is wrong. Curious what is wrong.
While you are there ask him/her if he has any research (peer reviewed) on the endurance athlete and injuries huge 30 page paper plus presentation due next week and I don’t have enough articles.
You definitely need to get it checked out, and will probably need rest to let any inflammation or tearing heal, then PT to strengthen. The one thing to remember is that range of motion is key for the shoulder.
I got a shoulder injury about 3 years ago, and have just in the last 6 months been able to have full use of the arm, i.e. doing bench press type exercises. It wasn’t until I started really stretching the shoulder out that it got better. Now I stretch during every resistance exercise using the shoulder. There was one stretch that was excruciating, it must have been stretching the area that had lost range of motion. I kept working at it, and I’m good to go.
Just something to think about after you go through everything. Sorry to hear you’re injuried, it sucks big time.
Perhaps I can cheer you up by saying that I am 110 miles into my minimal shoe running career (might not recognize the name, but if you do a search for posts under my username you might remember), and the running is going great. I had one short set back early on where I strained my foot trying to do too much, but after letting that heal I’m good to go. I’m already surpassing my weekly mileage I was able to attain before, and I have zero MTSS pain, zero ITB pain, and everything in general feels pretty good. I wouldn’t say I’m adapted yet, but I feel like I’m on my way. Compared to what I was going through before, this is a cake walk. I’ve been slowly ramping up the mileage, so it’s taken me a while to get to this first 100 miles, but I’ve already got 13.5 miles in the bag this week with two runs to go. Just a few months ago I would be dying from shin pain with that kind of mileage, spread out over the entire week! I’ll give a full report when I hit 300 miles, but I just thought I’d throw that out there.
Good on ya jack! that magic 300 mile place is wonderful once you get there. Just wait till 1200 miles! Your legs will be like iron. your toes will feel like tree roots and you’ll be one happy and strong runner.
If I ignored you on a PM or email, sorry. I get quite a few and sometimes when I’m struggling with my own training, helping others out for free is just too mentally taxing. Makes me all depressed. I know, I know, if you want something, give it away first. Anyway glad you’re doing well.
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I never sent you any PM’s or email, I was just acknowledging that you probably wouldn’t know who I was just by my username alone, since I’m sure you talk to a lot of people about this stuff.