Seemingly don't build houses on an Indian Graveyard

The indigenous archeologist in the video brought up a good point that the current system really doesn’t work for anybody.

Obviously not the homeowners. It doesn’t really work for the indigenous because it provides an incentive to just look the other way and bury found remains (that does happen. Give the excavator operator a thousand bucks to “not see” anything). That is mitigated here in planning, but may not be the same in ontario. Here, If the house is in an archeologically significant zone, you need to have a city approved archeologist on site during excavation, to the tune of something like $300/hr, observing and occasionally sitting through dirt. Of course, remains could still be found in areas that haven’t yet been deemed archeologically significant.

Lastly, it puts the city in a position where they just want to stay out of it and pass the buck. It also makes planning and permitting difficult.

We were contemplating putting a laneway house in our backyard, but its just not worth the risk and expense.

The expense is insane.

It’s more or less the cost of building an entire house 5-7 years ago.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/commentary/carney-governments-new-agreement-bc-first-nation-raises-many-critical-questions

The majority of greater Vancouver, Canada’s third largest metro area, is now under aboriginal title.

And nobody dares to say anything. But he beat Eby to this. Well, first the communists confiscated our property in 1948, now Indians…

Will be interesting to see how will this effect the real estate market. My understanding is that now you have to ask and pay the Indians for permission to buy and sell.

Residential properties? I haven’t heard anything about that.

Part of the problem is nobody knows how this going to shake out as it’s going to be in the courts for 20 years.

I really can’t convey how bat shit crazy things are getting here.

https://www.timescolonist.com/opinion/les-leyne-mla-says-assessment-change-aims-to-stop-value-drop-after-aboriginal-title-decision-11979321?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Ask yourself again how land acknowledgements are harmless or performative only.

This province is completely fucked.

Johnny Two Feathers has something to say about this.

I truly don’t understand how they are still governing. Have done absolutely nothing positive I can point to while transferring all tax revenues to govt employees and union contractors.

I think they’re going to get hammered next election. The left is going to be split between them and the greens.

All the conservatives have to do, and I know this is a tall order for them, is tamp down the crazy ideological stuff and stick to the economic issues, and they will win by a landslide.

I just don’t see how this doesn’t end up cratering the province economically. Most of BCs wealth is in real estate, and construction has been the driver of our economy for twenty years now. We have seen pullback on large projects due to complications with indigenous claims. Without being alarmist this just looks like it could destroy whatever is left of the middle class here.

That’s some crazy stuff. The banks will certainly use the land claims in their appraisals. How does one get a loan to buy a place (assuming someone would want to buy there) when the bank appraisal and the government appraisal are nowhere close to each other?

I don’t think the current crop of conservatives will be able to constrain themselves - so many of them are as mad as cut snakes! Expect we end up with an even more useless coalition govt.

I’m taking a bit of a wait and see on the land claims right now before I determine if I should freak out. Seems no one can agree what is going on and what the ultimate implications are.

Our current NDP government didn’t take any math classes, just sociology.

The BC appraisal is only done for property taxes purposes. Private appraisals from banks are often different and are a better representation of fair market value. The BC appraisers don’t come in to your house every year and poke around.

The issue here is the BC government is making deals that are likely going to have serious impacts on property values, and they are looking to protect its tax revenue by passing a rule whereby the government appraisal can ignore the negative impacts of aboriginal title on the appraisal. How the hell they would even do that is beyond me.

How will they distinguish how much the property value declined due to aboriginal title vs, say, increased interest rates?

The uncertainty in itself is a problem.

It certainly is. No argument on that point!

I get it, but if you are selling, are you going to list for the bank appraisal or the Provincial appraisal? The bank likely won’t finance the Provincial appraisal. I think this will trap the current owners in their houses, unless they take a large haircut on their price.

My property value is down 15%. Part of it are the 2 high rises, on in our block, one across and more land assembly nearby. But part of it is that nobody knows who now owns the land the house is on. Is it me? Was it already given to a native band in some backdoor deal, who claim that somebody’s grandfather heard form somebody else’s grandfather that once upon a time a native made fire here, so it sacred ground? Will it be given to natives later? This shit pisses me off to no end. I would vote for Trump like character if his/her platform is equality among all, no UNDRIP and shit. And the judge is native, so what do you think she will decide? And the @#$% land acknowledgement…. Thank you for taking care of the nature? And what have you done to take care of it? Protecting it from who? Same shit the communist did in ex Yugoslavia. Every Monday in school we had to stand up and thank you comrades for our happy this or that.

Hopefully Eby will be bulldozed over and a conservative government will create some order. No more race based justice system, no more skin colour based admissions, no more natives only event, no more endless money…Move the @#$% on from you past worshipping crap. And don’t call me colonist, invader, occupier, uninvited guest etc.

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You sure you don’t want to be annexed?

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https://ca.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/3-383-9179?transitionType=Default&contextData=(sc.Default)&firstPage=true

Just to reiterate