Basically, a lo-fi predator?
Surrey police pose as joggers to catch men harassing women out exercising
This is so important, that policy are now baiting cat callers rather than controlling the rising crime rate.
a cat caller is much more likely to be a criminalâŚ
ie a decent person would not do that.
I donât think that study is telling women to change their exercise routing in winter, itâs reporting that three quarters of women change their exercise routines in winter
Good point, and I can see it that way now; it depends on how you read âsuggestedâ
It could either be âthe study determined âŚâ or âthe study recommended âŚâ
The link goes to âdeterminedâ thanks for enlightening me
I would be curious if a survey was done for "how many people met their partner after they shouted at them or catcalled them while they were in public"
I canât imagine itâs a significant number. Perhaps a social media campaign pointing out how pointless/cringe it is.
I want to believe that the majority of men donât do this. I have never in my life seen a woman in public and thought âIâm going to yell at her and hope she likes it.â
And yet as a husband and father - I know what my wife and even my 11 year old daughter deal with just walking along the road. Itâs ridiculous and I wish the US had a different culture.
I donât think they do it because they think the woman will like it. They do it because they know it will make them uncomfortable. Itâs a power thing. Also possible they are just idiots. Or both.
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I guess that also makes senseâŚbut also would have never occurred to me.
I pray Iâm actually in the majority on this.
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Itâs âBoys Will Be Boysâ bullshit, and until fathers teach their sons not to behave like that (or until sons figure out for themselves that theyâre behaving like assholes, and reject that behavior), itâs not going away
And itâs not just the US, either, is it? Iâm sure that French, Italian, Spanish, and British men call out women in such ways (well, we know British men do, otherwise thereâd be no need for a âtask forceâ to keep an eye on them, right?); they just do it with more style, more panache
As a father - Iâm doing my part.
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France is terrible. Most women canât run alone in the larger cities. My wife said the older farmers were the worst (we were very rural).
Or they think it makes them look cool in front of their mates!
Who are ALSO assholes, therefore
And the one who says âDude, donât be a dickâ is therefore a pussy
I met my wife while out running.
I guess Iâm part of the statisticâŚ
Took the XC kids out for a trail run last weekend. One of the younger boys older sisters brought him to the trail and went for a walk on a shorter loop while we ran the big one. As we were finishing the loop, his sister was up ahead wearing headphones and just walking along.
So her little brother ran up quietly behind her and poked her in the back saying boo or something like that. She screamed so loudly and was so terrified. Her brother was pretty shocked too!
I had to explain thatâs like the worst possible fear he just exposed her to, which he didnât really get.
So add, donât wear noise cancelling headphones, earbuds to the list!
Which leads to âwomen shouldnât have to learn to be careful; men need to learn how not to be a threatâ
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I understand your sentiment, but what youâre saying in actuality is nonsense.
Tell the edge of the cliff not to be threatening. Where one force is greater than the other, there will always be a âthreatâ in the power imbalance.
If what youâre saying is men need to not act in a such a way that demonstrates an intent to cause harm. Well, ok, I think we can all agree there. But as long as the ability to cause harm exists, the threat exists, doesnât it?
Yes, thatâs what Iâm saying
And no one learns to not act in a such a way that demonstrates an intent to cause harm, without being taught/shown how to do so
And since boys learn such things from Dads vs Moms, itâs on Dads to show them the path
Now, to be fair and transparent, I only have a girl, so I taught her long ago that boys can be dangerous, because a lot of them have Dads âwho think this shit is fineâ