Rollers? (2)

I’m thinking about getting a set of rollers. My main motivation is to try and spice up the winter indoor training season. (I already have a fluid trainer). A couple questions:

  1. Are rollers any less boring to ride than a trainer? It seems like the constant fear of crashing onto my basement floor would focus my attention and make time go by quicker but is that actually true?

  2. How long will it take to get comfortable on them? (I’ll probably limit myself to a road bike and I have pretty good bike handling skills - does that make a difference?)

  3. What’s the minimum I can realisticly spend to get a decent set of rollers and some recommendations please.

1 Much more entertaining than trainer, although personally I can’t watch TV\study on them.

2 Not long, but in my case they became more dangerous the more comfortable I got. I have ate it hard from lack of attention. Doorways are your friend. I don’t ride a tri bike on them but I would venture a guess it would add another level of difficulty at first in aero.

3 $100. If you aren’t sure you will stick with it try a set of nashbar reduced radius rollers and an old tire. I say old tire because I can’t get a good workout on a new set of pro3’s but with a boxed off old tire (lost its round) the resistance is **considerably **higher. They are smooth at moderate efforts and only get slightly noisy\shaky when really putting out some effort, although still highly stable. If you think you might stick with it I would go with some krietlers (sp?) that you can add resistance units to.

eMotion rollers…end of story. They are freakin awesome and tonnes of fun. Not going to get bored on those.

Good move. They are a great alternative for the winter-bound athlete to, as you say, “spice up” the indoor bike riding:

A blog of mine from a while back on some tips and guidance on . . . . getting rolling! :wink:

http://stevefleck.blogspot.com/2010/01/rolling-with-rollers.html

I hate riding the trainer now and prefer rollers.

Practice. Riding a little every day is the best way to get the hang of them. I ride the track bike (fixed gear), the road bike and have ridden the Tri bike on them. I can ride no handed very easily on the track bike and one-legged drills (hard!)

Performance brand are fairly inexpensive.

I don’t find it to be any less boring than the trainer for an individual workout, but it is something different. Having options to mix up your indoor training helps overall winter boredom though. I use them for easy spins during the winter to work on form and loosen the legs up, and use the trainer for the hard workouts. Either way, I don’t do more than an hour without getting bored out of my mind.

Took me about 5-10 minutes to be riding straight, and a few rides to get comfortable enough to do things like no-hands, one-leg, etc. Set them up in the middle of a door for your first few rides and you shouldn’t have any issues. You can bump shoulders on either side to stay up, plus you can hold onto the sides and work on no-hands stuff.

I’ve always seen lots of recommendations for the TravelTrac rollers. Great bang for the buck. Seems like the price is up from a year ago when I bought them though, but should be reasonable if you can wait for a sale. I paid $135…they now show as $180, so 20% off would get you to $144.

Rollers are way less boring. Comfort level varies from person to person. I can watch movies and even ride my rollers half awake in the morning, but I haven’t tried riding in aerobars yet. I have Kreitlers with the flywheel. I ride my road bike most of the time and occasionally use my tri bike with the fork stand for aero position. Plenty of resistance for hard efforts (5+ min). Possibly not enough for very hard short intervals 30-45sec or less. They are pretty quiet as well.

It took me 2-3 times to not need a wall close by. 8-10 times to get really comfortable where I barely had to concentrate. I’ve only fallen once through 100+ hrs of riding.

Thanks for all the info. This definitely sounds like a good new toy to go after.

Did a little looking on eBay and there are a fair number of used sets for sale at decent discounts off new. What’s up with Cycleops PVC rollers? There are a couple sets super cheap, which invitably causes my finely tuned eBay radar to assume they are bad. Is that true?

about 2-3 times to get comfortable. first time is SCARY!!!
i use my road bike only, would probbly crash my tri bike on the first tri.
still can’t use cleats, too scared, using sneakers.
I usually watch movies/sitcoms

I have the eMotion Rollers and was riding aero second time out on them. They are different than other rollers though. Do a search on ST…plenty of info on them, but they aren’t cheap. I also bought a Kreitler Fork Stand to use with the rollers for days when I’m riding long and watch movies/TV and don’t want to have to focus on staying upright. Rollers demand attention if you’re not using a fork stand.

Rollers are ‘less boring’ that straight up riding a trainer, for sure. However, if you have a preplanned workout on the trainer, you can often go harder on it and as well if needed you can watch DVDs (training or entertainment) so it ends up being less boring than rollers.

E-motion rollers seem like the best option - they’ve got bumpers to at least stop you from rolling off the side, which is a big problem if you start zoning out on regular rollers, and as well the front-back float makes it impossible to jump off the front/back - ironically, that to me is by FAR the biggest problem with regular rollers since the moment you shift your weight, you risk jumping your bike off the front of the rollers (you’ll see what I’m talking about very quickly if you get rollers.)

Unfortunately, and it’s a BIG one in my opinion, E-motion rollers cost $700+! That’s a pretty hefty chunk of change, and they also take up a good deal of floor space (can’t fold down.)

Performance Bike TravelTrac rollers are $125ish in the store and work great, but have all the caveats I listed above. I prefer to not do intervals on my rollers as I can go harder on my trainer.

I also am of the opinion (which I would definitely add is not universally shared) that rollers don’t have an appreciable effect on my triathlon bike riding technique, if any. If you’re a sloppy rider that can’t hold a straight line to save your life, rollers will def help with that (but it’ll also be hard.) However, if you can hold a straight line (not hard), adding roller abilities won’t make that straight line a lot straighter. I analogize it to being able to do a wheelie - takes real skill and coordination, but in terms of riding faster and cleaner, the benefits are marginal compared to a regular cyclist. I will say that learning to accelerate on rollers is a great skill to have in close pack (criterium) riding since sudden accels would be dangerous - rollers absolutely force you to smoothen that pedal stroke or else you’ll jump off the front. In a tight pack with speed changes, this skill is very good -but in nondraft triathlon, it’s superfluouous, imo. (Others will definitely disagree!)

Probably the single best technique skill I’ve gained from my rollers is the looking back over my shoulder to check for cars move. I know you might think you can do it safely but on the rollers, you’ll see first hand how much sweve you have when you do this - it’s amazing how sloppy you will feel on rollers once your head turns. Once you can do this solidly on rollers, you definitely won’t endanger coriders when you check for cars by swevering left/right.

Did a little looking on eBay and there are a fair number of used sets for sale at decent discounts off new. What’s up with Cycleops PVC rollers? There are a couple sets super cheap, which invitably causes my finely tuned eBay radar to assume they are bad. Is that true?

PVC rollers can warp from heat. Aluminum rollers won’t. Depends how much your going to use them and whether you want to use them outside or not.

Any advice for a Brooklynite who lives in an old building directly above his landlords?
I have a Kurt Kinetic Road Machine which is not too loud for my apartment. How much louder (if at all) are rollers?
Rollers seem like a much better trainer for learning bike handling – I can do the really hard indoor rides on the trainer.

Thanks.

depending on the make/model they can vibrate pretty bad at higher wheel speeds. (mine at 30mph get a serious vibration)