I just posted this link in the original thread, but from the page views it seems that the participants may be the only ones still visiting that thread, so thought it might better go under it’s own heading.
Interesting that he would have chosen a different wording (as has been reported elsewhere), but also that he is a bit embarrassed to see the amount of money that was raised and spent on a bus campaign when it could have been (and he would rather it had been) spent doing something else…
he is a bit embarrassed to see the amount of money that was raised and spent on a bus campaign when it could have been (and he would rather it had been) spent doing something else…
"I was interested that the Prof was embarrassed by the success of the fund-raising and thought that the money could be better spend on something else.
There are of course, many good causes and ads on buses may not serve an immediate need for many who are suffering. However, I would argue that if it gets people thinking/talking and listening to reason, then in the future there will be a much larger group of people to provide secular help to others. Churches raise huge sums of money for their causes due to weight of numbers which gives them political power as well as free advertising by putting the word “Christian” in front of any aid group or good cause.
I see nothing wrong in spending £140,000 on bus ads if it generates interest in reason and non-religion. If it swells the ranks of the thoughtful, then it is indeed doing a lot of good and in the long term, is probably better for the world’s crises than the Help-for-Souls campaigns of religion. "
I do find it curious that he thinks reason is somehow antithetical to faith.
It strikes me that you are being a bit disingenuous in that comment, but assuming you are sincere, you might then want to read up a bit on the two to better understand why that is so.
Anyone who uses faith and knowledge interchangeably is wrong. To the extent he bases his argument that faith is a claim taken by someone as knowledge, he has won the argument by defining it away. Anyone who considers faith to be knowedge does not know the difference.
I see nothing wrong in spending £140,000 on bus ads if it generates interest in **faith **and religion. If it swells the ranks of the faithful, then it is indeed doing a lot of good and in the long term, is probably better for the world’s crises than the Help-for-Helpless campaigns of charities. "