Recommend an IM plan

Signed up for IMFL 2007, will be my second, IMCDA was my first this year. Since then I haven’t allowed myself to become too out of shape. But I wasn’t in the shape I wanted to get to begin with, I could have used 8 more weeks in all honesty. I started training 20 pounds overweight and only lost about 10 during the training. I have continued swimming 6-8K per week, running 15-20 miles per week, but haven’t been riding at all.

I have some limiters. I can only invest about 15-20 hours per week and I can’t pay some fancy coach a lot of money, but I can invest a little money if there are any aspiring coaches out there. Unfortunately, I am bleeding cash for a wedding in June.

What plans or coaches would you guys recommend?

Thanks!

www.multisports.com
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Thanks, I have looked into this, but I don’t know anyone that’s used it. Have you?

Rich Strauss sells various IM plans and has forum for some limited support if you don’t want the expense of a personal coach. Im using the off season plan now and will use an IM plan for next year. They are based on ability, use of power and course, if hilly. Plans are very specific on what you should do each day. Use with Training Peaks.com and Cycling Peaks.com. Richs plan on cruciblefitness.com or Training Peaks.com. Check it out, Michael in KS

Yes, I have used the multisports plan. I used the IMWI specific program for IMWI 2006. The plan is great. Very detailed, very specific, and very flexible. You receive 6-week calendar’s of workouts. Each workout is very detailed. There is an on-line log you can use, which the coach’s can access. The personal attention is unreal. I posted a question about a late-season injury on the message board. Paul Huddle called the next day and gave me his personal cell phone number and an invitation to call any time. Roch Frey sent me a couple personal e-mails in response to questions. I cannot say enough good things about them. Total class acts.

I am currently using their year-round program and will use the IMWI specific program for 2007. I will likely attend their camp for IMLP 2008.

Thanks dude, that’s the kind of feedback I am looking for.

I also second the multisports.com plan. Very thorough and good feedback if you ask.

clm

send slowtwitcher “Paulo” a personal message…he is a good coach as well
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ok…I know this is going to be unpopular. This is the plan I go by and it is absolutely free:

Monday: Swim, bike, run as much as my scedule and my ability to recover allows.
Tuesday: Swim, bike, run as much as my scedule and my ability to recover allows.
Wednesday: Swim, bike, run as much as my scedule and my ability to recover allows.
Thursday: Swim, bike, run as much as my scedule and my ability to recover allows.
Friday: Swim, bike, run as much as my scedule and my ability to recover allows.
Saturday: Swim, bike, run as much as my scedule and my ability to recover allows.
Sunday: Swim, bike, run as much as my scedule and my ability to recover allows.

:slight_smile:

Seriously, for most age-groupers what we train is dictated by where we can squeeze in the time. More is more as long as you don´t overpower your bodys ability to recover.

You can get pretty good by this. The effect that professional coaching has is largely overrated (aside from the moral support).

Some general rules aply, too. Such as: Don´t go out hard every day. Or: A long ride can not be replaced by 5 mini-rides. But… do you need a coach to know that?

Nowadays everything seems to be over-complicated. Got out and train. Have fun.

Axel

Here’s one I did for BT.com. Near the bottom are pdf’s for each of the 20 weeks.

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=441

Happy training,
Scott

Open excel sheet

Go down 50 lines

In the first column put in the race date
In the line above it put in the date 1 week prior
Repeat that process untill you get near today’s date

Go back to the bottom where you have the race date, call that race week.
The two weeks above that, call them peak weeks.
The three weeks above them, call them build weeks.
All of the other weeks, call them base weeks. Arrange them in 3 or 4 week blocks, whatever you prefer. You may even use the progressive training stress approach if you really know what you are doing.

Now this part is subjective but you will get the idea.

For the last 3 base weeks’ long runs, put in 2 of your longest runs seperated by a long run day of 2 ten milers. Fill in the rest of your week’s schedules with 3 or 4 other shorter runs.

Long ride of 6 hours in those last 3 base weeks, fill in the rest of the schedule with 2 to 3 shorter rides.

Long swim of 4000 meters in those weeks, fill in the rest of the schedule with 2 to 3 shorter/faster swims.

Use the previous base weeks to build up to that volume level - safely.

Use the following weeks to build some race pace workouts around 75% of the volume

Use the Peak weeks to sharpen skills with maybe some shorter track workouts and lighter quicker rides and runs.

Use the race week to rest up and get ready for the race.

Make up a weekly schedule and try to seperate the 3 key workouts, maybe something like this:

Mon Bike, Run
Tue Swim Key, Bike
Wed Run long Key
Thu Swim, Bike
Fri Swim, Run
Sat Bike long Key, short run
Sun Swim, Bike, Run moderate distace (if race then those are key)

This is merely a suggestion.

My $.02

jaretj

That sounds like a good idea. I got online last year and found a free plan for an ironman. I didn’t like it at all, but then found a book that I really liked - the only problem was that the plan only lasted 12 weeks. I was already in shape when I started, so it worked out, but I’m looking for a plan that basically lasts all year from January until an ironman in the fall. Does Chris Carmichael have any books out there with a detailed training plan? I know I can’t afford a coach, so I’m looking for the right book, and then I’ll just adjust the plan to fit my schedule. Any suggestions?

I wasn’t aware that Chris Carmichael was a tri coach.

I got Gale Bernhardts book “Training Plans for Multisport Athletes” It has a 26 week IM plan but really you should use it as a guide for what type of workouts to do at certain stages of your training.

I felt that it would have been pretty easy to complete but obviously can’t account for an individual’s limiters.

Some coaches offer an Annual Training Plan for an individual that is highly motivated but needs guidence to set up a plan. They may have a set fee or charge by the hour on the phone.

jaretj

ok…I know this is going to be unpopular. This is the plan I go by and it is absolutely free:

Monday: Swim, bike, run as much as my scedule and my ability to recover allows.
Tuesday: Swim, bike, run as much as my scedule and my ability to recover allows.
Wednesday: Swim, bike, run as much as my scedule and my ability to recover allows.
Thursday: Swim, bike, run as much as my scedule and my ability to recover allows.
Friday: Swim, bike, run as much as my scedule and my ability to recover allows.
Saturday: Swim, bike, run as much as my scedule and my ability to recover allows.
Sunday: Swim, bike, run as much as my scedule and my ability to recover allows.

:slight_smile:

Here Here!!! We AG’rs take all this training a little too serious. keep it fun people.

e-mail Rich Strauss or look at his website cruciblefitness.com, he shaved a mere 1hour and 50 mins off my previous IM. Over an hour on the bike alone. He will get u faster on the bike.

I am looking for something similar, but easier to execute. I used Mark Allen Online last year and it was okay, I may actually use it again, but even that got expensive. What I liked was training by HR made a lot of sense, but training by time vs. mileage got kind of scary and I ended up cranking up mileage towards the end and ignoring time. I think the longest ride scheduled was about 5.5 hours at an HR of 152 or less. Maybe if you are Mark Allen that works but for me that was only about 90 miles at best where I was training (hilly roads). I wasn’t about to do an IM with a long ride of 90 miles. I am not buying a powertap or a computrainer or paying $500/month for a coach. I am motivated, not rich. So that eliminates plans that call for wattage analysis.

You want a power plan, www.cruciblefitness.com for not allot of dough you get a PLAN! And i mean a very detailed plan of what to do to get you to the finish line.

t~

I’ll coach you for free ($250 shipping).

Are you jumping in a box and sending yourself to me?

e-mail Rich Strauss or look at his website cruciblefitness.com, he shaved a mere 1hour and 50 mins off my previous IM. Over an hour on the bike alone. He will get u faster on the bike.
an hour and 50 minutes? I’ve got to know the overall times before and after. You’ve got my attention. I just finished my first ironman in the fall. My only tri experience before hand was a 1/2 IM. Based on my training, I was hoping to go under 11 hours, but bonked big time on the run and ended up at 12:12. I’d love to work with someone who really knows what he’s doing.