Race Security Overreaction?

I’m doing a large, well-known tri this weekend.

Just received an email from the RD with new security precautions that we apparently have to follow. We apparently will be given two numbered clear plastic bags that we are supposed to use for all of our transition gear. All bags are numbered for each athlete, and we are specifically asked NOT to bring any other type of bags (ie backpacks/transition bags), and everything we do bring will be searched by the PD prior to allowing us to enter transition on race morning.

Am I alone in thinking this bit of “security theater” is a bit much of an overreaction to the events in Boston?

you are not alone
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Total over-reaction but I can’t say I am surprised at all.I wonder if it was the decision of the organizers or the local authorities…


with the benefit of hindsight do you think anyone from Boston would consider this ‘security theater’?

personally I don’t think such an action would occur in transition but just outside where the crowds are watching bike mount and dismount, that tends to be where crowds and VIP tents are.

with the benefit of hindsight do you think anyone from Boston would consider this ‘security theater’?.

Yes, every rational person would think it was silly.
There aren’t a lot of them, but there are some.

you are not alone, but… seems like it’s a way to cut down on the crap in transition. Not unlike some WTC races where you can’t have things on your bike and have to use transition bags. Plus it might be easier to see what bag is yours if you can see in them. Think of it as a blessing in disguise.

I saw lots big black backpacks at ITU last weekend and no transition bags were checked as far as I know, more than a few high profile people at that race.

We had a moment of silence before my triathlon on Saturday in honor of Boston.

I’d be willing to give up a few minutes for a bag check to avoid random danger…

with the benefit of hindsight do you think anyone from Boston would consider this ‘security theater’?

When you say “anyone from Boston” it seems you are implying there was some sort of manly reaction - you know, like what you would see in some countries where they spray the blood off the street and open for business again the next day like nothing happened. What I saw was a little scared girl who jumps up on a chair when she sees a mouse and swats it with a broom. Except she was on the chair swatting for several days.

I’d be willing to give up a few minutes for a bag check to avoid random danger…

So you’re willing to do worthless acts of worthlessness to not prevent anything… what idiot would put a bomb in a bag that was going to be checked?

You can check all the bags, make them clear, you can run bomb sniffing dogs before the race, but no matter what you do it doesn’t prevent someone who wants to set off a bomb from setting one off in an open area. You can’t make an open field/open race course secure, well you can but I don’t think anyone wants to pay the cost of that race. How many races happen a year, between all the running races all the tris and everything else. 20k+?? and this has been going on for how many years with not one incident? Out of all these races for all these years we’ve had one bombing, yet now for some reason people feel unsafe going to a race. I don’t get it.

with the benefit of hindsight do you think anyone from Boston would consider this ‘security theater’?

When you say “anyone from Boston” it seems you are implying there was some sort of manly reaction - you know, like what you would see in some countries where they spray the blood off the street and open for business again the next day like nothing happened. What I saw was a little scared girl who jumps up on a chair when she sees a mouse and swats it with a broom. Except she was on the chair swatting for several days.

no no, was trying to say that anyone in Boston at that particular time would probably have been very glad to jump through whatever hoops were necessary to increase safety of all concerned…in hindsight. Nothing about any manly reaction.

I remember living in Tampa about 8 years ago, and they were adding pat downs when you entered the Bucs NFL games. What struck me as so odd was that people were actually really hell bent against the act. I kinda just shrugged and thought it was with the times that we live in. I just thought it was interesting how pissed off that people were getting about it and how they were going to lengths of trying to make it out like their “rights” were being violated. This reminds me of that.

I am all for this. This may keep all the excess stuff in transition. Also may limit the people in the transition who should not be in there.

**Am I alone in thinking this bit of “security theater” is a bit much of an overreaction to the events in Boston? **

I gather you are not American :slight_smile:

You are not alone. I think it is a large overreaction to a virtually nonexistent threat. As someone already pointed out, if there’s going to be a problem, it would most likely come from the spectator side, and there is just not a plausible way to control that. And yes, I am American (some later post suggested the OP must not be) and I had friends at Boston.

Yesterday a woman at work asked me if I was running the NYC marathon this year. I looked at her weirdly at first (because I’ve never run an open marathon) and then asked if she meant the one in November. She said “sure, if that’s when it is” so I said no because I’ll be in Florida for IMFL. She then asked if I was scared to race because they are so dangerous now. I decided to tell her that getting in my car and driving home was also dangerous. So is riding my bike on the side of the road with distracted drivers going by. There is nothing we can do and to eliminate risks in life. Knee jerk reactions to give people a false sense of security are not the answer.

George Carlin had a funny bit about airport security that sort of relates. Check it out: http://youtu.be/uQdC-e82gmk

The point is we incur risk in so many things we do. Using clear bags instead of regular ones isn’t a major change or a big deal (and I agree with the poster about maybe it keep transition less cluttered) but it is doing zero to prevent anything from happening at a race. The way communities came together after Boston and have in so many other tragedies makes me believe that most people are inherently good. We have to trust in that and know that on an open course like our races, there is no complete safety net, but the risk is also extremely minuscule. You’re more likely to get blown off your bike in strong wind or slide out on wet roads.

riding my bike on the side of the road with distracted drivers

Your statement is right on. As a 41yo healthy suburban male if I ranked my risks for serious injury:
cycling in training drivingrunning in trainingundiagnosed health conditionshome accidents

Cycling - concerns me because I have been hit before and I have “near misses” each time I cycle. Driving - I have been doing for so long that I take it for granted, but occasionally during poor road conditions or during expressway traffic driving I am more concerned. The other 3 don’t worry me at all.

I got the same over-reaction from people who know I do marys. It is similar reaction when they read about somebody having a clincher during a marathon or drowning during a triathlon.

Yes and no! All it takes is 1 crazy triathlete to blow him self up in T1 then you will say i wish they had better security.

Yes and no! All it takes is 1 crazy triathlete to blow him self up in T1 then you will say i wish they had better security.


Triathletes blow themselves up all the time,usually from lack of training…


What’s wrong with security theater? 95% of all security is theater.

A race director has 2 choices - do nothing and risk looking like an idiot or do something and at least then he can say he tried. Clear bags are a pretty easy way to be in a position to say you tried.

On a more practical note, I do believe that it took the PD a really long time and alot of effort to check huge stash of runner bags in Boston that were transported from the start to finish. If the bags had been clear, it would have made the search for a 3rd bomb quicker. I predict clear bags will become the norm at any race where participants are bringing/storing stuff during the race.