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If everyone or even half the field did what you plan on doing it would be a bit of a mess, so NO, don’t do it.
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Why not do the race as a RACE ie. go all out and put it on the line, so that when you finish, you don’t feel like doing anymore for the day. Save the mega training days for other days.
Fleck has the correct answer IMO. If you have to do more miles keep away from teh course.
The rules are the rules for a reason. It always amazes me how people try to rationalize why it is OK for the rules not to apply to them (i.e. its just a small race… I am not bothering anyone…).
Hi Waytooslow,
Does it bother you that people break a rule that way? Could you please explain why? I am interested in understanding that issue. Some people raised the competition factor, which I can understand. Is there anything else?
Maybe these people think more like " I accept the risks and consequences of breaking the rule because it is more important for me to…" and fill the blank with “sharing a moment as a couple”, or what ever they want? That would be a little different from saying that the rules should not apply to them. Would that be more acceptable?
Fleck,
I agree with you. If everyone did it the course would soon be a mess. I also like to call it a day as far as excersize when a race is done, enjoy the food and drink and talk to friends.
I had been following this thread, then the other night I’m reading Triathlete Magazine and in the Dear Coaches column Huddle and Frey suggest to somebody they take a post race run on the course. i know those guys do some race directing, they directed Ralph’s recently. I guess they are pretty sure most people have no interest in doing that or they’d have to double the stuff at the aid stations.
Paul
What bothers me is that it seems some people cannot face the fact that there are rules that are written in black and white which entail no interpretation. If you do this, then that… People like to look at rules and personalize them to their own feelings (i.e. if I don’t think I am bothering anyone, then I must not be), but a rule is a rule.
If someone wants to face the possible penalties, then, as long as they accept the consequences, it is their decision.
Thank you for the explanation.
Maybe is it not much unlike people driving over the posted speed limit?
the question is what if you aren’t competing? what if you have no real dreams of placing and just want to do a triathlon?<<
That’s called TRAINING.
the question is what if you aren’t competing? what if you have no real dreams of placing and just want to do a triathlon?
That’s called TRAINING. <<
the overwhelming majority of racers go to a race and have no chance of placing. Don’t cheapen their efforts and tell them they are TRAINING when they are out there busting their balls. Not everyone is lucky enough to be able to go fast. These “training” people will give an eyeball to outsprint somebody at the end even if they are crossing the line at 3:30 for an oly.
ps. thanks trirunner
so a husband “pacing” his wife should be ok.<<
Sure, on a nice day in the neighborhood, alone or with friends.
In a race (and we’ll call “race” something that a third party puts on, people pay some sort of consideration to enter said race), no way, if it’s a USAT sanctioned race. If it’s not, then it’s whatever the RD says.
no but if you have finished your race stay off the course. I dealt with 3 couples that one partner caused the other to get a 2 minute pacing penalty at WF Olympic. Lets just say the pacer was probably going to end up on the couch for the next few nights.
Eric Drew
Head Referee
Wildflower Olympic Distance
RD doesn’t have the power to void USAT rules. We enforce the rules as written. There are exceptions but they require a Petiton to USAT that must be approved by USAT’s Executive Director in writing well in advance.
Course saftey issues can also crop up IE: wet steel bridge at WF Long Course being declaired a no ride must walk zone. that is something the RD can declair
technically yes she is.
somehow I bet this senario would piss you off:
You are on your bike and you keep getting stuck behind people riding in the middle of the road having a good time yakking to the rider on the right and you can’t pass, then there is the wheel sucker on your tail. they have been written up more than 3 times by different marshals and are DQ,ed but they don’t care because they are out for fun and don’t care about finish times. are they cheaters? yes, is your wife? yes, are you? yes
ok so here is your position some rules I will follow others I won’t because I don’t feel like it. as for keeping up with someone else on the run: as long as you are a competitor in the event you can be on the course running right behind anyone you choose and thats legal. the second you cross the finish line you go from competitor to spectator period . If you go back out and run with someone it’s pacing and thats cheating. that form of cheating is no different than drafting ,blocking, cutting the course etc. I don’t care how you rationalize it IT IS CHEATING.
my opinion is that rules must be executed in an equitable manner. In otherwords to be fair a rule must be apllied to all competitors in exactly the same manner with no bias for or against any one group. that said I am not familiar with “Road Racing rules” so I really have no idea why or if those are the rules and their application.
My God! Do you have a thick head or what?
There are these things that occur on many weekends. They are called RACES. You pay your money, you race. Just because one is slow or not the top person doesn’t mean he or she isn’t RACING. If your wife loves swimming, biking and running, good on her. She can do it on most any road in the nation. If she enters a RACE, abide by the frigging rules, whether you like them or not.
Lastly, this is TRIATHLON. It’s not road racing. It’s not cycling races, it’s not swimming competitions. Each have separate and distinct rules from TRIATHLON.
depends on the behaviour of the roadie. Stay out of the way of the racers then it might be OK - but if you’re time-trialing, probably won’t be able to do this. Do the marked out course the weekend before the race or after the race instead.
On last year’s Boulder tri, while descending Old Stage hill, I was cut off and forced to slow down by a roadie. He passed on a bend, but didn’t pedal on the flatter stretches, and I didn’t feel like fighting him off at every curve, so stayed behind. At the bottom of the hill, there’s a stop sign and a T-junction, race goes L, he went R without stopping. Clearly a jackass. If I see him next year, I’m going to run him into the brambles…
Hey Dave,
Make sure you take off your chip or your splits might get screwed up.