PSA: Gravel frameset on sale - Fuji Jari 1.1 at Performance - total steal

My current road bike is a 2003 Felt F85 size 54, which I measured as a stack of ~520 and a reach of ~390. Stock stem, not sure what length and pitch. But I did see your recent article on measuring to bar clamp instead of traditional stack and reach.

But for a gravel bike I would want something rotated back a bit. When I descend on dirt on the current bike I am to far forward. I guess the other solution is a dropper so I don’t have to sit straight up when I am on tarmac.

Interested in where the industry will converge for all-road bike geometry. Specialized’s redid the Diverge and appear to end up with the same stack to reach ratio but with a much lower bottom bracket.

in my opinion, the industry has converged. gravel geometry is road geometry, as regards fit. but we’ll see. just, if this isn’t it, then we’re telling ourselves a fairy story when we say gravel bikes can be ridden as road bikes or gravel bikes with a wheel and/or tire change.