Sea Shepherds! I met some.
The foster parents of my German Shepherd were super into animal rights and were vegans etc. Because I was vegetarian at the time (not for moral reasons, I think meat tastes yucky) and involved in animal rescue they assumed I was into animal rights.
Anyways, I got invited to a potluck at their house with some of their friends. All very dedicated vegans and animal rights activists. (One guy was also a triathlete and trained on the treadmill with one of those oxygen things that simulates high altitude).
A couple of them had spent time with the Sea Shepherds aboard their boat being good animal rights activists.
It was hilarious - the conversation somehow turned to what would you do if you saw a predatory animal about to kill a prey animal. Almost all of them said they would jump to stop the attack and save the prey animal. (I was like ‘Ummmm…no you wouldn’t. You’d get hurt if you did.’ But I would love to see get a bear or a pack of wolves or a mountain lion off of its prey.)
I pointed out that while they had stopped one killing and saved that life, they had also deprived the predator of his food and ability to sustain himself which could weaken him, and that he could slowly starve to death if as he was weakened he could no longer hunt effectively. That while they had saved one life, they could be responsible for the death of another. This confused them.
(And I won’t even go into the date I had with a guy I met there…I don’t know what I was thinking going out with someone that into animal rights.)
that sounds like the biggest made up story i have ever heard, of the tens of thousands of vegans i have meet, i have never met anyone who would do that, yet you found a whole room of people who would do something so stupid?
i love how vegans are so stupid and can’t comprehend your superior logic and reasoning.
this thread is delivering many laughs, everyone keep it up, those crazy AR people…
Sadly, not made up. Of the 8 people in the room (I think; this happened almost 3 years ago so my memory is fuzzy as to the exact number of people), 5 or 6 agreed they would try to stop the predator.
2 of the people at the dinner had volunteered on the Sea Shepherd (or whatever the boat is called).
And Vegans aren’t necessarily so stupid…those ones were. And I wouldn’t even say they were stupid, they were simply fixating too closely on a particular principle academically rather than thinking about the impacts it would have in a real world situation. I have Vegan friends who are very smart and far more logical about food chains etc. (Though, I do have one friend who found a giant cockcroach in their basement by the washing machine and couldn’t kill it but got her husband to; I was like ‘But you ordered it’s death’…I was just bugging her though. I found a wasp in our bedroom a few weeks ago and started screaming and got my boyfriend to kill it. Same as her.)
I’m not anti-Vegan or Veg at all. I was vegetarian for 15 years, and while I wasn’t veg for moral reasons, I was very strict (even buying vegan purses, shoes etc…and the best hoody EVER, my ‘SEITAN RULES’ hoody with a pentagram made from forks) because if I was going to call myself vegetarian, I was going to be vegetarian.
In terms of AR? I agree with some of it, and a lot of it I don’t. It doesn’t mean I think people involved in AR are idiots, I just disagree with them. Did I think the people at that potluck held an idiotic point of view with respect to predatory animals? Yes.
BUT, if you want me to call people out for being idiots - the guy I dated who I met at that potluck? Corrected me when I was telling him about taking Luc (my German Shepherd) backpacking and how we both fit in my 1-man tent. He went ‘oh oh oh! One PERSON’ and I was like ‘STFU’. Got upset that I was feeding Luc raw, and that my cats were fed grain-free kibble - he started telling me about how he fed his cats vegan kibble with taurine supplements and how much they loved it. He said that cats could eat vegan food because they were obligate carnivores, and then asked me slightly condescendingly if I knew what an obligate carnivore was. I’d never heard the term before but b/c of how he asked I said yes (I assumed it was something about how cats weren’t obligated to eat meat.
Then I got home and looked up ‘obligate carnivore’. It’s an animal that is a true carnivore and MUST eat meat. I gotta admit, I laughed and laughed.
So there we are. Another AR idiot story. Not made up. But I promise, that’s all I’ve got. 