Prolotherapy

wondering if anyone has used this prolo (proliferation therapy)?

i have had issues with hip pain off and on for a couple years which is not getting better with physical therapy and my doctor suggested these glucose injections . i am a bit leary of injecting anything into my body, but it sounds better than the damage done by steriod injections.

has anyone tried it? any horror stories about side effects?

I looked into it for my shoulder injuries, but the advice I got was that it wasn’t really all that great FOR SHOULDERS. It’s supposedly excellent for a lot of joint injuries, but because of the cup/ball/ligament design of the shoulder joint, it apparently doesn’t work quite so well. I would imagine that it would be better for hips, but I have no idea how to quantify that.

I had cortizone injections done on my metatarsals several years back, and while it helped, it never “cured” anything. It was a band-aid solution that helped speed recovery, but did not help long-term.

i developed serious bilateral hip tendintis about six months ago from over training. the pain got so intense that i had to quit running. needed to seak treatment since it was bothering me so much. went to two different physical therapists over a period of two months, tried acupunture and even deep tissue massage (NMT). after all tretments and the ice baths and NSAIDS there was zero relief. NMT helped but it was minimal. i was in agony and decided to try “prolo.” after a series of ten prolo injections for my hips over a period of three months i am happy to say that i am nearly 100% healed. just finished my first triathlon (completed an olympic distance in 2hr 16min) this past weekend and i’m a happy camper… prolo will help if it is tendinits or other connective tissue injuries. keep in mind that you have to stay away from ice and NSAIDS if you want to heal. tendons and ligaments of minimal blood flow and in order for them to heal quickly and properly you need to apply heat to them. i learned the hard way by constantly icing (good for muscles but not connective tissues). during prolo treatment apply heat several times a day to the injured area along with self massage especially prior to workouts. also it is very important that you find a reputable prolo therapist to do the treatments… it is not cheap, insurance probably wont cover it, but it is the only thing that has helped me with my injuries. feel free to write me if you have any other specific questions. good luck… ohhh, research it, prolo is being used extensively throughout the sports world with much success. i remember reading that the US olympic ski team was using it during the past games in Torino.

you asked about side effects: only local slight tenderness after receiving injections that last about a day. usually not worse than the pain you are already experiencing. the glucose injections don’t do the healing, if i’m not mistaken - its your bodies beneficial inflamatory response that reacts to the solution being injected that does the healing. so in this case inflamation is good…

you mentioned prolo was not cheap…would you be willing to share ballpark cost of treatment (cost per shot/session??). i am doing some research now…i know a world class older triathlete that used it for back issues, which i too have (59 yrs young). also who administered it ? neurologist, orthopedist? referrral?

trying to get ready for st. anthony’s down your way…

nice website…hope everyone ok in your area from recent bad weather.

thanks

There’s another post on prolotherapy up now, look down the page…my thoughts are listed there…in summary: no scientific evidence that it actually does what is says it does per its marketing…

hi tyrod1,

the cost varies and is dependent on many factors. the doctor i went to (who administered the injections) specializes in musculoskeletal medicine and non-surgical orthopedics. he is here in sarasota, and had a deal worked out for me. if you want specifics please feel free to PM. take care of the back of yours, prolo or not, don’t let it go w/o treatment. they sometimes work with insurance. good luck with things and i’ll be up watching some friends race st. a’s. all is well here from the recent tornadoes (we are a couple hrs away from the sadness) - thanks for the thoughts… prolo has been used for many years with great success in europe and i know that the US ski team including Bodi Miller used it with success. but hey, if everything needs to have 100% empirical data backing than…

wondering if anyone has used this prolo (proliferation therapy)?

i have had issues with hip pain off and on for a couple years which is not getting better with physical therapy and my doctor suggested these glucose injections . i am a bit leary of injecting anything into my body, but it sounds better than the damage done by steriod injections.

has anyone tried it? any horror stories about side effects?


I am currently undergoing prolo for my SI joint. Its still early and I still have to have a couple more sessions but it seems to be working, the day to day pain is mostly gone. I also dont have pain after a hard bike ride. My SI would flare up bad in IM’s and 1/2 IM’s.

did you ever get prolo…what were results?

is prolo still working for you?

Prolo save my running. I have been semi pain free for 8 years now!

what part of body did you use prolo? how many applications?

I tried it for hip pain/SI joint pain that nobody could seem to diagnose or treat. Like you, I did a ton of physical therapy to no avail. Prolo was painful (I would not say it was just a little local pain like one person suggested), and I found it was difficult to find a reputable doctor who did it. The “doctors” who injected my hip/SI Joint were creepy and made me uncomfortable. I also found it difficult to get comfortable with the injections in my back, near the spinal cord – made me nervous. Maybe you’ll have better luck. Try to find a mainstream ortho who does it if you decide to try it. It did not work for me, but I have since found out the underlying cause of my chronic pain. It is very clear that I could have had 3,000 prolo injections, and it would not have helped. I do remember it was expensive and not covered by insurance.

SI Joint-Performed by Warren Scott in Aptos, he is one of the MD’s in charge of the med tent in Kona. Probably had a bout 10 injections over a year. Previous to that I couldn’t even work because of the pain in my leg from a bad bike crash suffered at IM Canada in 1998. I have glute pain once in a while now but doesn’t put me out of commission.

thanks, that’s where mine is at too…maybe also l4-l5; crazy world, mine started when i crashed at IMFLA in 2003.

not only screwed up back, but knocked my whole body out of alignment which has led to meniscus surgery as well in 2006.

i often wonder if this had happened in my youth, chances are i could have recovered better.

there’s always bocce ball.

stay healthy!

Have an appt for prolo with Dr Hauser in IL. Diagnosed with common hamstring tendonosis. I’m pretty good at not getting injured so it typically doesn’t affect me in regular life, but it impacts my running immensely. the ham just gets so tight I just can’t pop. After a trail half marathon, the area has tightened significantly (flexibility wise). In Chicago this year, it seized up getting off the bike and I had to jog the run. I am hoping that this should be a relatively easy one to cure…

Any experience with Dr Hauser or hammie tendonosis prolo?

I’ve done prolotherapy with Dr. Hauser on several occasions. In my opinion he is one of the best in the United States. People from all over the US fly into get treatment from him including Olympic athletes. Hauser is a 5 time Ironman finisher as well and has a long history of endurance events.
I’m a big fan of prolotherapy and I complete disagree with any statement which says it isn’t good for the shoulders. Several years back I hurt my shoulder in a father/son baseball game. For 6 months I received treatment and was finally recommended for surgery but tried prolotherapy. I was back in the pool within 48 hours and after two treatments was 100%.

Peter S. Alfino
www.milehighmultisport.com

Thanks for the update, I have only heard good things so far
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I would be very careful. The science is far from solid.

Had the first prolo on 12/21 (injection into the common hamstring tendon at pelvis attachment point) with RPR injection.

As of 12:30, the knot I have been working on for 2.5 years (PT, chiro, massage, etc) seems to have dissolved, and the area seems to have returned to a more typical hamstring injury. PT/Chiro agree that the area has gone from “ropey” to “beadlike” and seems to be improving.

I am planning one more round of non-RPR prolo on 1/14 and see how things go from there.