I have to disagree. That whole Pidcock 5km is a joke if you look at the GPS data. If you’ve seen the Pidcock video of him running he’d be doing well to break 16 based on speed. He has no running history like Ovett
Says here he jogged to 44th place in LA marathon in the cycling off season in 2’48. He said in the Instagram post that it was off cycling training
I think his Dad could run a bit too! 
I think that went right over everyone’s head!
For the uneducated his father is Steve Ovett the Olympic 800 gold medalist. Although Freddy is British and was born in Scotland, the Ovett family moved to Australia a long time ago.
He can swim!
I think his Dad could run a bit too!
I think that went right over everyone’s head!
I think so!!! LOL!
I think his Dad could run a bit too!
I think that went right over everyone’s head!
I think so!!! LOL!
Coe Ovett and Cram at LA Olympics
Steve Ovett also turned to duathlon and time trial cycling at the end of his running career. Raced locally here in the north of England/Scotland for a couple seasons. Seem to recall seeing him aboard a Zipp beam bike, was pretty darn good at those sports too.
LOL… shows what genes can do !
LOL… shows what genes can do !
work gets him to the start line…genetics on top of work reflects the finish time
good point. I assume he jogged LA marathon just to finish. curious as to what he could run all-out in the marathon on just his ride-training as cycling does give an enormous aerobic base and he as the natural speed…
good point. I assume he jogged LA marathon just to finish. curious as to what he could run all-out in the marathon on just his ride-training as cycling does give an enormous aerobic base and he as the natural speed…
for a 14:41 5km speed, 2:48 for LA marathon is jogging but even then if the quads are not trained, you can’t fake 32-42km range of a marathon. You would think with proper training he can run a mid to high 2:2x but being a pro bike racer, he would never get to proper training, so with 6-8 weeks off season a low 2:3x could be in the cards.
If I recall correctly Normann Stadler than a 2:30 marathon in Frankfurt at the end of an Ironman training year (one of the year’s he DNF’d Kona and threw his bike into the lava fields). Its not like Stadler was training for marathon speed, but he had endurance/durability getting prepped for Kona at 2:50+ pace.
that was my thinking also - in the range of 2:25-30 on a fast course. difficult for him to introduce specific work but if he had one day a week
(8weeks prior) to just include a long run for muscle-fatigue adaptation and then the rest of the training on the bike I think it could be possible, maybe.
Steve Ovett also turned to duathlon and time trial cycling at the end of his running career. Raced locally here in the north of England/Scotland for a couple seasons. Seem to recall seeing him aboard a Zipp beam bike, was pretty darn good at those sports too.
I think he got knocked off his bike and had some serious leg injuries but not certain.
Tom D ran a 32 high on a 9.85km course so more 33mins… doesn’t compare to a 14:40. I don’t think Schomburg took it ‘easy’ and ran a 14.44 I think he just got beat, why would he race otherwise. I think there’s a few guys that transition well from cycling but not many. The main issue is the swim… Knowing most Australians they can swim very well, so who knows
Maybe a classic Schomburg performance where he goes out too hard for 2k and then blows up…
I think his Dad could run a bit too!
Understatementmuch :-).
Always cheered on Snr to win over Slimy Seb in their heyday.
Steve Ovett’s son has good running genes, who would have thunk it.
His Uncle went to the Winter Olympics.
He ran a lot and did pretty well.
Who is Tom D?
This is kind of the off season for triathletes, base training time, that would be a good time for Schomburg this time in season. Freddy Ovette was a runner for years, dabbled in triathlon for a bit when stopped winning his aus champ junior running races. His swim needed too much work, then he moved to cycling as a talent transfer. He would be closer to race fitness at the moment.
This is kind of the off season for triathletes, base training time, that would be a good time for Schomburg this time in season. Freddy Ovette was a runner for years, dabbled in triathlon for a bit when stopped winning his aus champ junior running races. His swim needed too much work, then he moved to cycling as a talent transfer. He would be closer to race fitness at the moment.
Maybe he (Ovett Jr) is in the same category as Canadian cyclist Michael Woods (3rd at UCI world’s Innsbruck around 2018). Was Canadian junior record holder at the mile. Woods transfered to cycling when injured running.
There are runners who can bike but not every rider can run. I wonder how fast Ganna would run.
I would argue December is the complete opposite of race fitness time for a cyclist ha!
good point. I assume he jogged LA marathon just to finish. curious as to what he could run all-out in the marathon on just his ride-training as cycling does give an enormous aerobic base and he as the natural speed…
for a 14:41 5km speed, 2:48 for LA marathon is jogging but even then if the quads are not trained, you can’t fake 32-42km range of a marathon. You would think with proper training he can run a mid to high 2:2x but being a pro bike racer, he would never get to proper training, so with 6-8 weeks off season a low 2:3x could be in the cards.
If I recall correctly Normann Stadler than a 2:30 marathon in Frankfurt at the end of an Ironman training year (one of the year’s he DNF’d Kona and threw his bike into the lava fields). Its not like Stadler was training for marathon speed, but he had endurance/durability getting prepped for Kona at 2:50+ pace.
This.
I dont know how hard he pushed for the marathon either, but from a mere capacity-POV, a 2;48 marathon should be a breeze for a 14:41 5k-runner. I think the biggest limiter for a cyclist trying to run, will be the muscular endurance/resilience. It makes sense that Freddy O will be closer to maxing his 5k potential, than his marathon-potential, going right of bike-training. Freddy is also a small/light guy, which helps immensely going straight from the bike to start running. I am guessing Fabian Cancellara or Tony Martin would not be as gracious or fast in vaporflys, even though also they have huge engines.
Also - none of us know (or atleast I dont know) - how much running Freddy O still does. He obviously has done a fair dose of running growing up, which naturally helps him. Could also be he goes on the occasional run, esp during his off-season. With the capacity he already has, that would go a long way.
So yea, 14.41 is impressive, but probably not totally unexpected from someone who has maxed out in the gene-pool-lottery. Should still add, though, while 14.41 is a phenomenal time in itself, its not extraordinary from someone who does professional sports and is extremely talented.
A very fair assessment and analysis - perhaps the most yet! I’m hoping he will do another marathon this year again - maybe LA or something more fast. Purely for my own selfish reasons of seeing how fast this cyclist running-racing thing can go. I don’t think his old man ever did a marathon?