President with worst character ever

You thought I was going to say Trump. But after spending a week in DC and the area I’ve decided Trump would have to work hard to make the top 5.

My nomination is Thomas Jefferson, a guy I’ve always thought was at the very top of the president heap.

Sally Hemmings was the biological half-sister to Jefferson’s wife. She was 3/4 European. Came under Jefferson’s ownership as a toddler. Jefferson was 30 years older than her. He appears to have started having sex with her when she was 14, and certainly before she was 16 as she was pregnant at 16.

Had 6 children, 4 survived. None, including Hemmings, were freed before Jefferson died and then only two of the children were freed in his will. Jefferson never acknowledged any of the children as his and in fact he and his family always denied it until proven by DNA in the 20th century.

So he was an obvious hebephile/pedophile (since we don’t know Hemming’s sexual maturity or when he decided he wanted to have sex with her), kept his wife’s 1/2 sister as a sex slave for almost 40 years, left 4 of his children in slavery until he died, and never provided anything to them as inheritance.

And no, that wasn’t acceptable at the time. People tried to use the rumors about it against him.

So who comes in 2nd?

Wilson

LBJ

JFK

Andrew Johnson
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By all accounts Johnson was a huge jerk. Jackson also seemed like a dick.

Its really hard to account for personality traits based on how little we actually know about the private lives of presidents before 1980ish. Similar to athletes/celebs.

Nixon. A real monster.

Honorable mentions:
Grant. He did nasty things in the civil war
Teddy. The roughriders wern’t called the nice riders

2nd place:Tommy Blunt. The character Reagan played in an episode of The Nash Airflyte Theatre

Just commenting on the age thing only…

Not unusual for the time.

And to this day the legal age (for sex) in some states is 16.

Some countries it’s 14, including Germany and Italy.

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Jefferson was a bastard.

Andrew Jackson was constantly challenging people to duels. I think he was also the originator of the spoils system. Or at least took it to a new level. Also the Indian removal act. I think he was second worst.

President Camacho.

By all accounts Johnson was a huge jerk. Jackson also seemed like a dick.

Its really hard to account for personality traits based on how little we actually know about the private lives of presidents before 1980ish. Similar to athletes/celebs.

LBJ would be in real trouble with respect with sexual harassment. I mean, he showed basically everyone his dong. By all accounts it was impressive, but still, that is rarely appropriate.

You thought I was going to say Trump. But after spending a week in DC and the area I’ve decided Trump would have to work hard to make the top 5.

My nomination is Thomas Jefferson, a guy I’ve always thought was at the very top of the president heap.

Sally Hemmings was the biological half-sister to Jefferson’s wife. She was 3/4 European. Came under Jefferson’s ownership as a toddler. Jefferson was 30 years older than her. He appears to have started having sex with her when she was 14, and certainly before she was 16 as she was pregnant at 16.

Had 6 children, 4 survived. None, including Hemmings, were freed before Jefferson died and then only two of the children were freed in his will. Jefferson never acknowledged any of the children as his and in fact he and his family always denied it until proven by DNA in the 20th century.

So he was an obvious hebephile/pedophile (since we don’t know Hemming’s sexual maturity or when he decided he wanted to have sex with her), kept his wife’s 1/2 sister as a sex slave for almost 40 years, left 4 of his children in slavery until he died, and never provided anything to them as inheritance.

And no, that wasn’t acceptable at the time. People tried to use the rumors about it against him.

So who comes in 2nd?

Good thing he’s not around today… There are many on this board that we just claim you have a bad case of JDS!

By all accounts Johnson was a huge jerk. Jackson also seemed like a dick.

Its really hard to account for personality traits based on how little we actually know about the private lives of presidents before 1980ish. Similar to athletes/celebs.

I recall LBJ used to have his aides, reporters, etc. follow him into the bathroom while he took a shit. Apparently, he wanted to maximize his time. That alone should put him near the top of the list.

Clinton. Lewinsky affair says plenty about his character.

I hope no one digs up dirt on Truman. My dad was on his security detail and always talked so fondly about him.

How about the worst VP character ever?

My vote goes to Aaron Burr, he shot and killed Alexander Hamilton in a duel. Might be the only federal executive office holder to commit murder.

If you are going straight by cheating. There are like 10+ presidents who cheated on their wives. Trump, Clinton, Washington, Jefferson, Cleveland, Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson.

If you are going straight by cheating. There are like 10+ presidents who cheated on their wives. Trump, Clinton, Washington, Jefferson, Cleveland, Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson.
With student interns?

Obviously Clinton abused his office. Monica was like 22-25 when the affair happened. “student intern” implies a much younger age. Johnson and Kennedy also are alleged to have been coxsmen so I am sure they had affairs with employees.

would you consider a slave a student intern?

I think Cleveland was accused of rape. Roosevelets affair was with his secretary, very similar to monica. Eisenhower, same thing as an employee. Johnsons affair was like his entire adult life.

Not saying that having affairs is good. But it certainly isn’t an auto top of list.

Honorable mentions:
Grant. He did nasty things in the civil war
Teddy. The roughriders wern’t called the nice riders

Impressive

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Is that what the smiley in the other thread was all about?

Impressive **

Is that what the smiley in the other thread was all about?

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