We have had literally dozens & dozens of inquiries regarding whether or not the existing PowerBar Endurance Powder can be used interchangeably w/ the new PowerBar PERFORM RTD (Ready To Drink). After going back/forth w/ PowerBar on this issue, their initial stance was that the new PERFORM would be a *dramatic departure *from the existing PowerBar Endurance Powder.
With that, after digging through the #'s ourselves, below is a comparison of the PowerBar Endurance Powder & PowerBar PERFORM & I’ll let you make the call:
PowerBar Endurance Powder / PowerBar PERFORM
**Serving Size: **1 scoop (makes 8oz) / 8oz
**Calories: **70 / 70
**Total Carbohydrates: **17g / 17g
**Sugars: **10g / 10g
**Sodium: **190mg / 190mg
**Potassium: **10mg / 10mg
**Magnesium (DV%): **4% / 2%
Ingredients:
**PowerBar Endurance Powder: **C2 Max Carbohydrate Blend (Maltodextrin, Fructose, Dextrose), Citric Acid, Sodium Citrate, Sodium Chloride, CALCIUM SILICATE, Magnesium Citrate, Potassium Citrate, Natural Flavor, Turmeric color.
PowerBar Perform: Water, C2 Max Energy Blend (Maltodextrin, Fructose, Dextrose), Less than 1%: Citric Acid, Trisodium Citrate, Natural Flavors, Salt, Magnesium Citrate, Potassium Citrate, Turmeric for Color.
For comparison…
GATORADE ENDURANCE
Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 Tbsp
Servings per Container: 4
Supplement Facts
Serving size 1 Tbsp Amount Per Serving %DV*
Calories 50 *
Cholesterol 0 *
Total Carbohydrate 14g 20%
Sugars 14g *
Protein 0g 0%
Sodium 200mg 8%
Potassium 90mg 3%
FIRST ENDURANCE EFS
Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 scoop (32g)
Servings per Container: 25
Amount Per Serving %DV
Calories-96 Calories from fat-0
Total Carbohydrate (Complex carbohydrates, Dextrose, Sucrose) 24g
Sugars 16g **
Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid) 120mg 200%
EFS Total Electrolyte Blend (Ca, Mg, Cl, Na, K) 1160mg *
Calcium (as DiCalcium Malate) 100mg 10%
Magnesium (DiMagnesium Malate) 150mg 38%
Chloride (as sodium chloride) 450mg 10%
Sodium (as sodium chloride) 300mg 15%
Potassium (as di-potassium phosphate) 160mg 6%
Malic Acid (from DiCalcium and DiMagnesium Malate) 700mg *
AjiPure Amino Acid Blend (L-Glutamine, Leucine, Iso-Leucine, Valine) 2,000mg *
*Daily Value Not Established
**Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
In the eyes of the manufacturer, I can understand why they want to convey that its a “dramatic departure” from Endurance to Perform. I imagine the flavors have been changed fairly significantly.
But from a fueling standpoint, I see no difference in the nutritional information and no difference in the ingredients that would lead me to believe that the Perform product is different whatsoever.
Hammer HEED
HEED Lemon-Lime
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 29.0 g (Approx 1 Level Scoop)
1 Level Scoop: 47.0 cc = 3.2 Tbsp = 9.5 tsp
Amount Per Serving
Calories 105
Total Fat 0g
**** Sodium 40mg
**** Total Carbohydrate 27g
Sugars 3g
Protein 0g
Not a significant source of calories from fat, saturated fat, trans fat, cholesterol, dietary fiber, vitamin A, vitamin C, calcium, or iron.
- The Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
Ingredients: Long Chained Maltodextrin, Xylitol, Natural Flavor, Calcium Chelate, Salt, L-Carnosine, Stevia, Glycine, Magnesium Chelate, Potassium Chelate, L-Tyrosine, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Manganese Chelate, Chromium Polynicotinate.
In the eyes of the manufacturer, I can understand why they want to convey that its a “dramatic departure” from Endurance to Perform. I imagine the flavors have been changed fairly significantly.
But from a fueling standpoint, I see no difference in the nutritional information and no difference in the ingredients that would lead me to believe that the Perform product is different whatsoever.
I think you are looking at POWERBAR Endurance, not Gatorade Endurance. Powerbar - both formulas - has some significant differences from Gatorade endurance. 10mg of Potassium vs. 200mg jumps out at me, for example…
Ya, not much difference between the powerbar drinks but another difference to gatorade endurance is there is no maltodextrin in the gatorade endurance. That will take away a lot of the sweetness in the powerbar formula. Good thing in my opinion for most people. They will handle it better.
Powerbar Endurance:
175 Calories per pre mixed bottle
475mg Sodium
25g Sugar
Protein 0g
First Endurance EFS:
175 Calorie mixture
546mg Sodium
29g Sugar
3.64g Protein
Hammer Perpetuem:
175 Calorie mixture
142.5mg Sodium
4.5g Sugar
4.5g Protein
Personally, I like to be able to control my electrolyte intake separately from my caloric intake depending on the temperature that day. The above numbers are based on 175 calorie drink mixes. If EFS or Powerbar Endurance were mixed to 300 calories per hour, the sodium level is far above what the average person needs (935mg for EFS and 814mg for Powerbar). The drink mixes are better off with gus and gels for adding calories.
so if i’m using hammer products most of the year because i barely need any sodium, is going to be bad when i get to a race that uses powerbar? i was thinking of switching to powerbar in training about a month before the ironman, whats the difference between maltodextrin and sugar after you actually drink it? does maltodextrin just turn into sugar?
Maybe a bit off topic but----how will the Powerbar product be handed out on the bike course in 70.3 and IM races? The bottles are wide mouth and twist off. Will they fill bike bottles and hand those out or will you have to dump one in your own bike bottle?
chris
so if i’m using hammer products most of the year because i barely need any sodium, is going to be bad when i get to a race that uses powerbar? i was thinking of switching to powerbar in training about a month before the ironman, whats the difference between maltodextrin and sugar after you actually drink it? does maltodextrin just turn into sugar?
We’re prepping/heading up to Rev3 today so I don’t have time at the moment to post a more detailed response (but will try to do so after the weekend in greater detail).
Long & the short of it:
- I doubt you’ll have any problems going from Hammer >> Perform, BUT it would obviously makes sense to do a few trials to be sure.
- Every CHO you consume gets broken down into simpler forms through digestion. Eventually all of it is broken down into glucose, absorbed into the bloodstream & taken to the liver, where it’s stored or then distributed to use to swim, bike, run, breath, kill time on ST :), etc…
Maybe a bit off topic but----how will the Powerbar product be handed out on the bike course in 70.3 and IM races? The bottles are wide mouth and twist off. Will they fill bike bottles and hand those out or will you have to dump one in your own bike bottle?
At this stage of the game, we know about <<*>> much more than you, which is unfortunate as we’re being inundated w/ these types of questions & have not been able to get the any answers. As we get anything more formal from PBar w/ these types of Q&A, I’ll be sure to post it.
Yes i was comparing the Powerbar products, as the OP was. I agree there is some fairly significant differences for the gatorade vs. powerbar products. I think you meant 10mg vs 90mg. Still, that is a significant difference. Finally found the ingredient list for gatorade endurance (lemon-lime), here it is :
Sucrose, destrose, citric acid, sodium citrate, natural and artifical flavor, monopotassium phosphate, salt, calcium lactate, calcium silicate, magnesisum oxide, yellow 5.
Overall, I think its a minor improvement to go from gatorade endurance to powerbar endurance / perform.
Maltodextrin is a complex carbohydrate. They can be digested more efficiently by your body. It does contain the simpler sugars as a part of the structure. The body reacts differently to them when they are in the simple form. I hope i got that right.
I would make sure to try the powerbar product in a workout when your going at race intensity.
Maybe a bit off topic but----how will the Powerbar product be handed out on the bike course in 70.3 and IM races? The bottles are wide mouth and twist off. Will they fill bike bottles and hand those out or will you have to dump one in your own bike bottle?
chris
Just got this response to the same question:
Hello Jon-
Thank you for your email. The drink has a sports top.
Please let me know if you have any further questions.
Thank you-
Hi Brian,
I am sure many others are wondering as well: Are you going to end up carrying the powerbar perform or are the only places it can be bought is powerbar.com and ironman.com?
Thanks,
Tim
A bit off topic, but I have been using PowerBar Endurance for a long time now. It’s cheap, works for me, and I love the taste of the fruit punch. I was running low and picked up a couple of containers earlier this week which had a different external look to them. I broke into the new one this morning and the powder has a completely different texture and consistency as well. As far as I can tell all of the vital stuff is the same.
Does anyone have any details on why they changed it and whether the vitals are indeed still the same?
If EFS or Powerbar Endurance were mixed to 300 calories per hour, the sodium level is far above what the average person needs (935mg for EFS and 814mg for Powerbar). The drink mixes are better off with gus and gels for adding calories.
rappstar, etc., would like some feedback on the statement I quoted above. Thanks.
If EFS or Powerbar Endurance were mixed to 300 calories per hour, the sodium level is far above what the average person needs (935mg for EFS and 814mg for Powerbar). The drink mixes are better off with gus and gels for adding calories.
rappstar, etc., would like some feedback on the statement I quoted above. Thanks.
935mg/hr is NOT far above what the average person needs. In my experience ~1g/hr (1000mg/hr) is a pretty typical baseline for what most people need, at least judging by results. EFS is designed to hit that 1g/hr mark, figuring you take ~1L of EFS/hr.