Position clinic at the Giro

Damn, Basso & Zabriskie look good:

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The caption on this photo is: “Once dominant in time trials, Serhiy Honchar could only manage sixth”

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Of course sixth in this instance is only 40 seconds difference. I wonder how much of that is his higher position, that funky old Rev-X front wheel, and the frame, rather than his legs?

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Using a road bike didn’t seem to pay off for Simoni.

All photos from the Velonews site.

…man I can’t believe Sergei is using those lame ass Rev-X wheels. Those got to be worth the 40 seconds alone :slight_smile:

Oh cool… he’s wearing the new **Bell Alien tt **helmet. Yeah, I’m kidding about that one but it sure looks like our friend the alien’s head.

And how long was the TT? For those guys “TT” must stand for Taint Terminator!

“Damn, Basso & Zabriskie look good”

Personally, I don’t swing that way…but hey…whatever.

What amazes me is the the average joe can ride the same bikes as these guys. Can you say that about NASCAR?

“Damn, Basso & Zabriskie look good”

Personally, I don’t swing that way…but hey…whatever.

ROTFL.

OK, next time I’ll post pics from a TT at a women’s stage race. But I better not name it “position clinic” or you guys will really go to town.

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races05/giro05/giro05st18-karpets450.jpgKarpets got 2nd… Look at all the freakin’ spacers…

you’re forgetting the engine, me buying a p3c would be like riding in a nascar car with an unmodified honda civic 4-cylinder under the hood :slight_smile:
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lame ass Rev-x wheels? i have a set that are fast!!! have you ever used them? look at the data not far off of a H3! and the rest. it’s the motor and he’s in his mid 30’s

dan…

http://www.bsn.com/cycling/WheelAerodynamics.html

Karpets looks like he might suffer from the “long-legged but short-torsoed” syndrome. May be hard for him to get a lot of drop. His position doesn’t look that bad here really.

I would say “Simoni ONLY lost 1:34.” He lost 2:52 in the first TT. You might say that it worked for him.

1st TT:

1 David Zabriskie (USA) Team CSC 58.31 (46.14 km/h)
2 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 0.17
3 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel-Pro Cycling Team 0.44
4 Marzio Bruseghin (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 0.48
5 Serguei Gonchar (Ukr) Domina Vacanze 0.51
6 Vladimir Karpets (Rus) Illes Balears 1.07

23 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Lampre-Caffita 2.52

2nd TT:

1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 45.05 (45.249 km/h)
2 Vladimir Karpets (Rus) Illes Balears 0.09
3 David Zabriskie (USA) Team CSC 0.20
4 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel-Pro Cycling Team 0.23
5 Dario David Cioni (Ita) Liquigas-Bianchi 0.28
6 Serguei Gonchar (Ukr) Domina Vacanze 0.40
7 Marzio Bruseghin (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 1.02
8 Juan Manuel Garate (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.25
9 Paolo Bettini (Ita) Quick.Step 1.28
10 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Lampre-Caffita 1.34

Yeap, I’ve been saying this for two years, the CSC riders all look perfect on their TT bikes. It looks like Basso and Dave Z. are using a new Bell aero helmet. It looks even longer than last years and the one Dave Z wore earlier in the Giro, I love them. Also, How cool does Zabriskie look in his National Champion TT skinsuit!

Go CSC!

Dave in VA

“Look at all the freakin’ spacers…”

look at all that seat post. the frame’s too small.

csc did put on a clinic. it’s the most professional team in timed racing today. and that’s because a pro cycling team is not riding time trial equipment and depending on a pro cycling brain trust. they are riding NORTH AMERICAN DEVELOPED TRIATHLON equipment and they are finally set up like NORTH AMERICAN TRIATHLETES who, for going on 20 years, are and have been the world’s leaders in timed racing technology and expertise. congratulations to csc for realizing this, and too bad for the other teams who have yet to figure this out.

what i mean by this is that profile, vision, hed, cervelo, quintana roo, etc., all north american TRIATHLON companies, have been setting the standard in timed racing, and that’s ANY timed racing, whether triathlon or cycling. those teams riding euro bikes and components are just riding inferior stuff, and those directors sportif who don’t understand that fit and equipment expertise comes first from over here are just going to keep losing to CSC and discovery.

Will you be watching CSC in Clarendon tomorrow? I plan on watching just past the finish line.

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Honey, you melted my helmet on the stove by mistake, the time trial starts in two hours, now I have to wear this friggin thing in the race!

Jeez, but Dan, don’t you know that you can’t generate power riding steep? Only those slow triathletes that need to jog afterwards ride like that. All good European DS’s know that.

NOT!

Basso, 2 years ago: world class climber, mediocre TTer (at least, by pro standards).

Basso today: world class climber, world class time trialist. What a wonderful case study! I’m diggin it!

And how long was the TT? For those guys “TT” must stand for Taint Terminator!

I always laugh about the TT lengths in the grand tours. Remember last year in le tour, where they had a “really really long” 50 km TT? Phil Liggett was going on and on about how it was the longest in le tour in many years. I’m thinking, “I just did a 90km TT a few weeks ago, and then I ran a 1/2 marathon!”.

-Colin

And how long was the TT? For those guys “TT” must stand for Taint Terminator!

I always laugh about the TT lengths in the grand tours. Remember last year in le tour, where they had a “really really long” 50 km TT? Phil Liggett was going on and on about how it was the longest in le tour in many years. I’m thinking, “I just did a 90km TT a few weeks ago, and then I ran a 1/2 marathon!”.

-Colin

And you probably raced 10 days before and after that too, right? :wink:

If they had 180km TT’s in the grand tours…well…I imagine there would be a run-away winner of the GC…or maybe not…I don’t know really, but I’d definitely watch it with much interest. How exciting would the the grand tours be though if somebody put 19 minutes into their nearest rival over a 180km TT through the mountains? That’d kind of ruin it I think.

Also notice that the saddle is about 2 feet above the top tube. I am pretty sure that he is riding a re-badged Pinarello Montello tt bike. If my memory is correct, all sizes have the same head tube length. I bet his saddle/bar drop is like 15 cm.

By the way, do you see any spacers on Zabriskie or Basso’s bikes? 2 bolt vision bars slammed all the way down.

"“Look at all the freakin’ spacers…”

look at all that seat post. the frame’s too small."

That was my initial reaction as well. Then I looked at the stem. The picture angle makes it difficult to see, but it does not look to be a long one. A bigger frame may have too long of a top tube for him, no? In which case you could still argue that he is on the wrong bike…