I think you need to calm down…and if you are THAT serious get a coach…and do what the coach tells you to do (exactly as the coach tells you to, or the coach with fire you as a client)
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meh if you have an athletic background you don’t absolutely need a coach. i’ve done ok so far by myself.
i see you are back to form. lighten up francais, he’s just asking a question about when he should start training. he’s a college kid, unlikely to be shelling out a hundo a month for a coach when he has beer to buy and chicks to impress.
start to early and you will get burned out, start to late and you will end up in pain. i would start with some solid bike and run hours after turkey day and they a 6 month periodization.
be careful teege could be a girl…
I would recommend using the rest of the summer and fall to work on your running. Jump in some cross country races and do a half marathon. At least in the Northeast running a half marathon in October is just about perfect. Also spend some time doing strength and conditioning. Then take a few weeks off in November and start up right after Thanksgiving.
The first six weeks (through mid January, I would again stress strength and conditioning (work in the weight room), especially early in a training cycle. Since you are young and do not ahve years of base to build on, you will need a good strength base to allow you to handle the volume of training you will need to do an IM at such a young age.
My general advice would be that doing an IM so young takes a lot of the fun out of the sport. Why not put your efforts into doing a varsity sport or join a cycling or triathlon club and compete collegiately. Why not build up to it over several seasons of racing Olympics and HIMs, while you are young and fast.
I am doing Placid next year (1st IM) and I will be 31. I am glad I did varsity athletics in college and actuslly wish I put in the level of effort then, that I do now (I probably would have at least been all conference if I did). College will be over in a few years, IM will be around for the rest of your life.
This is a trick question, right? Is there something wrong with today?
Form? He/She said 20 hours a week…if someone is willing to put that much time in, it should at least be time well spent. That is quite an investment in life hours…and I would think would be well spent with a guide. You dont see someone say that they just want to go Sub 17 and train 20 hours a week at the same time. I think that a coach (Multisports.com) would be money very well spent for someone who is young and starting the game. It is easy to ride 6 hours…but is it 6 hours JRA or 6 hours getting stronger? To start, a coach and or program would help a great deal - and maybe get better results with less time. Time is money, and a program could SAVE money if it frees up enough time…
Me um say teege start training for IMUSA during spring break.
i don’t disagree with the value of a coach, especially in this case. my point, assuming i had one, was that he came in asking for advice about the training period and the sum total of your advice, at the time, was “get a coach you idiot”. there is nothing that says someone can’t figure this out for themselves, it’s not magic.
Oh, and it was more about the guy who did a race and was fired by his coach for it…that was funny.
yes, no one can argue that was a classic, and funny.
What type of training are you talking about. Building a base, building the ability to train, full on IM prep? You need to reverse plan your training life from your big race to tomorrow. Then and only then will you have some clue as to what, why and when you should be doing something.
<< The point of this was do I have enough time in 7 months to prepare for my first ironman. From what I’ve read, sort of; But I think I’ll go with that. >>
Well, given that there are the ubiquitous “13 weeks to a 13 hr IM” training programs out there (Gale Behrnardt’s book has a good one), for people who probably have less starting base than you seem to, you should be fine.
Even using one of Don Fink’s 30 week programs (PS - that’s another great book to get to supplement Going Long) means that you would officially start it right around the beginning of Jan '06 w/ your goal race being IMLP.
So 7 months is probably plenty (at least according to those authors), particularly if you have a good base and decent technique in the 3 events going into that.
Desert Dude is spot on w/ his advice. Get out a calendar, and work backwards from the race date, to see what you should be doing, and when, and why.
Figure out what your limiters are, and work on them in the meantime.
(my newbie $0.02 - probably not even worth that, but it’s what I’m gonna do, and that’s my story and I’m sticking with it!)
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“**carbon, get a tampon” **
Harsh, carbon is just trying to help you out.
Jeez, you better get on it. If you wanna go sub 11 with your longest race to date being an Oly, you should have started August 1st.
“**carbon, get a tampon” **
Harsh, carbon is just trying to help you out.
I think this kid is to new to remember the post about being fired by a coach…and we all know that the youth never take advice as advice, they take it as a personal attack on what they think is right and or wrong.
I do know that ANYONE who thinks that they are going to train 20 hours a week will burn out FAST if they are not careful about it. Some people think that just because they can do it for a week or two that they can do it for a month or two…I dont know anyone who can…thus, a coach or plan will help to keep things in prespective. But I guess this kid knows better than me…I hope he waits for me at the finish line at IMLP next year…
I’d rather not abruptly be warned that I am going to be fired (why would I go astray from what he tells me anyway), and even telling me I “NEED” a coach is condescending to me because … am I really that much of a n00b? I may be, but I am fit know how to get/stay fit, but might need a coach becuase of my overtraining habits.
Chill brother. The firing part was a joke, there was a HUGE thread recently where somebody got fired by his coach; maybe you missed it.
Being told you need a coach is condescending?? Really -lots of pros need and use coaches. You’re 20years old, going from an Oly to an IM, talking about 20hrs + per week of training and a sub 11 hour finish goal; yet at the same time, you’re still asking the question about when to start training. So lets analyze that: you have huge goals, and you admit that you lack triathlon experience. Why would the suggestion that you need a coach to help you sort it out be so offensive?
Maybe we should really try to piss him off…and then he can race mad and kick all our ass’s…works for some guys…
Tegee…so you are in IMLP next year?
What one are you?
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