for what its worth, marijuana is not classified as a narcotic.
“marijuana is not classified as a narcotic.”
True. My mistake. Marijuana is not legally classified as a narcotic.
Maybe he is thinking about a possible career in politics down the road. I almost seems like a prerequisite these days to have something like this on your record ; )
Sad fact is most people do not stop at smoking pot ( some do though.) and move on to bigger and better drugs then run out of money and start doing crack. Everything is down hill from there and usually point of no return. That leaves me and my crew to pick them up in the streets half dead ,strung out and disease’d. Hope Phelps gets a handle on this. Most kids do and he is probably expirmenting with his new found freedom and money. But if I could say one thing is we could blame alot of this on a womanizing, draft dodging, pot smoker, who did not inhale president. Ohh… it’s okay the President did it. Sorry there is nothing right or whatever you want to call it about doing drugs for other then medical reasons. By the way sounds like you are pretty judjemental. How are the kids in Greenland doing now a day’s. Maybe the world should be more like Greenland?
fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.
Wheaties take note: I would never have bought your shitty cereal before, but if you put phelps on the box now I will by some.
=)
What’s wrong with wheaties?!
Dev
Thought you were pretty cool! Hope you were joking. You are entitled to your opinion. But here is mine: Maybe you should stay up north and do the I.M. and tri’s up there. Save the spots for Americans or Canadians and everybody else that dont mind the U.S. .Leave politics out of Tri’s. Ohhh and I will take your Timberman spot if you have one.
Brian
not sure i’d call him a hero, phenominal athlete who is also a 23 year old doing 23 old things that is famous and a victim of the cell phone camera/pictures or it didn’t happen world we live in…makes you wonder what would have been caught on tape back when Mark Spitz was sporting that big mustache
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“marijuana is not classified as a narcotic.”
True. My mistake. Marijuana is not legally classified as a narcotic.
yes. and the reason is that it’s NOT a narcotic.
Most people don’t understand what a ‘narcotic’ is. Cocaine and meth are also not narcotics.
"and the reason is that it’s NOT a narcotic. "
Kind of beside the point, but,…the word “narcotic” carries more definitions than strictly the medical or legal ones. Oxford Dictionary also defines a narcotic as something that induces drowsiness, sleepiness, or stupor or a drug that affects the mind. The word “narcotic” was used to describe any illegal drug since the 20s and has only fairly recently been legally and medically defined otherwise.
bmanners,
you and your crew never pick up the millions of people who smoke pot and don’t turn to harder drugs, so you have no experience with that side of the universe =)
you only see the failure cases.
the completely normal people that you THINK can’t be doing drugs because they are normal, well, PLENTY of them are.
for instance, this one olympic swimmer…
He has had problems in the past. Starting to look like a trend.
Captdav1
yep, a trend of winning gold medals and then not hurting anybody.
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He has had problems in the past. Starting to look like a trend.
Captdav1
By pretty much every measure alcohol is worse for the body than marijuana.
It blows me away that our society is so stupid to not see our own hypocrisy when it comes to alcohol. How many people die per year from alcohol? Thousands and thousands. How many die from pot? None. Go to any bar at closing and see how people behave. Compare that behaviour with pot heads.
My drug of choice happens to be alcohol (I don’t like pot), but I pass no judgement on those who choose pot.
I fail to see the controversy here. Who cares?
Hi,
While I will not aggressively refute your “gateway drug” scenario, your template is turned upside down IMHO.
I apologize in advance for coming at this discussion from the perspective of the (occasional, end of day) end user.
I am part of the high-tech and medical field here in the Northwestern United States, but my trained skill-set IS NOT in analytical statistics. Because of that, I must insist that everything I write is IMHO, not statistics based reality.
The next section can be skipped, it is merely a starategic removal of ostwindows in the glass and metal structure I live in:)
It is no secret (Hello, Google), that I am the following:
45yo (46 in WTC years, thank you!).
The men in my fathers’ family (both late and living) are (nearly all):
Alcoholics,
prone (ALL…Gulp!) to clinical depression,
(and due to the former are) prone to addiction;in both substance and lifestyle,
all have died of either suicide or premature circumstance (alcoholic, opiate addiction (4th and 5th generations removed…so earliest part of 20th century.
None have died of natural causes, none grew old
All have mightily struggled to find some shred of happiness and satisfaction in life, despite being surrounded by great means, both educational and monetary.
Most have been self-medicators,
Some have been professionally medicated by licensed psychiatrists.
Most have been rather successful in the traditional yard-sticks of accomplishment: examples; CEO, CFO, company owner (75-100 employee companies),entrepeneurs, CPA, RN, writers and artists (commercially published and publicly shown) small business directors and managers (companies of 5-25 people)
So That is me, so now you know the basis from where I form my opinions. (And I still think that this thread(s) is more fit for the Lavender Room, BTW)
The Gateway drug argrument is not statistically valid. Again , Purely IMO.
99 percent of Washington/Oregon/BC Canada “end of day pot smokers” are just that: EOD pot smokers, and it is used in the same context that beer and ale are utilised in:
1-4 times/week, 1 to 5 inhalations over the evening (effect varies , but think of the 1-2 drink or 1-3 beer/ale evening.
This social behaviour is set in a public forum (coffee house)or private residence. driving post event if at all is same as driving from EOD beer/ale social event (and YES, Buzzed driving IS Impaired Driving…irregardless of the agent of impairment. No defending or justifying it here. BTW)
No EOD participants in our circle are violence prone ('aka wife or child beaters)
They are (our circles at least ) professionals, in both education and in career.
As seems to be the case with beer/ale, the parental groups (ages 35-60 yo) NEVER mix this with the younger generation (they, the kids, socialize among themselves)
I never felt right about the 16-19yo’s drinking or smoking around the adults that were doing same, but that is just my uptight hang up as an old USA guy.
It should be noted that my french and ozzy friends mix in multigenerational gatherings all the time, so it is a social norm thing (Hell’ my French and ozzy friends sometimes go topless or wear (Horrors!) Speedos at the beach, so to each his own I guess…eww, speedo!)
The gateway theory is constructed backwards starting with completely messed up people and working the chain back to the beginning. Example being: My cousin’s addiction to an opiate did not start with his addiction to coffee, but he and his addict friends all did “Starbucks” in middle and high-school. Starbuck’s does not ALWAYS lead to opiate addiction. Example; my neighbor Howard may have founded a big coffee company, but he has managed to avoid the slippery slope to the hard stuff, altough hislove of the 'Frapp is taking decades off his life.
My own addiction to endurance sport was caused (and I say blamed) by early exposure to another over marketed swimmer, a Mr Mark Spitz. I was a mere 8 yo when ABC bombarded my young mind with daily tape delay glorification of this made-for TV medal machine. Within 4 months I was swimming for a USS club, by 11 (not yet in middle school!) I moved on to hard stuff (2x/day MWF), by 15, (not yet legally driving) I had moved to 2 a days and an extra 3 on Saturday.
This addiction got worse as a Jr in High-school, again ABC TV(do you spot the trend yet?) exposed my endorphin fogged mind to an older swimmer ( a Mr Dave Scott) who had begun excelling inthis extreme endurance activity called “Ironman”. Still swimming 25-28hrs per week, I begun to sneak in runs and cycles after the championship club season ended in August. I even (Horror!) experimented with trying a tri in secret that August…I had to do it under an assumed name, so as to not cause issues with my USS member standing (1980 rules…no mixing with pros or competing in other sanctioned sports).
By 1983 I began a full slide into an addiction that persists to this day…please bear with me on this , the details are so hard to re-visit , but I find this confession to be cathartic, so let me run with this one ok people? On a July afternoon, I saw an ad for an Ultra event 5 hours north of where I lived at the time, I would have to cross an International border to partake, but the boundary with Canada was more transparent in that age.
I drove to this town, to meet 25 other people who had gathered for this “happening”, there were even 400 volunteers to “aid” us in this pursuit. (we even paid for the privelage of this…$125 USD) When we woke up on Monday, 23 were labelled as “IronMen”, a young man (me) who had led 125 of 140.6 miles before being pulled by the medical authorities had been labelled a “threat to the future”. He would return again and again over the next 27 years to keep chasing this “addiction”.
Christ, What have I done?
I Blame Canada
Oh my gawd, I am an addict, the gateway is right…how did it get to this point?
i heard it was tobacco in that pipe
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**I’ve never been in the US so maybe I should not judge, but this is exactly my view on Americans. Glad I live on the good side of the Ocean. **
I’m glad you live there too. We’ll keep pumping out athletes that well, pretty much kick the shit out of everyone in 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 events at one olympics…
We’ll keep pumping out athletes that well, pretty much kick the shit out of everyone in 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 events at one olympics…
ON WEED!
Maybe he’s been hanging out with towelie too much.
**Hell, it wasn’t until the 60’s that someone suggested sex could be fun rather than just reproductive… **
Where did you get that information?