Size 13/48, flatish feet, wear orthotics, use Looks with the float but don’t need it, knee over toes throughout the stroke. I don’t like the Look cleat system – too many “Oh crap, I can’t get unclipped episodes.” The larger platform appeals to me but like the rest of us I read that platform size does not matter with stiff soles.
I’m thinking maybe give the LA pedals a try – perhaps the cleat system is better? The Zero’s look appealing for the ease of exit-entry but that small footprint and my 13’s…
Is there objective criteria for choosing one pedal system over another?
Look hard at the new Time pedals…low bio-position, nice float, automatic “Q-Factor” adjustment of sorts, light, bomb proof. And I love Time shoes (damn French products)
I have Zeroes, and love them. I also have the new Dura Ace pedals and love those. Hard to choose. Zeroes are easier to get into (stomp and go), but the DAs are easier to get out of. The DA cleat is easier to run/walk in.
When just riding along, they feel identical (I have carbon soled shoes with both).
Hmm…I am currently riding on speedplays and thinking of switching to DA because it has a bit wider platform. I feel like I get hot spots in the ball of my foot during long rides and wondered if something like DA would help. But your post says you don’t notice much diffference while riding. Any others with experience in this area?
i too am riding on looks…and will sometimes release when i pull real hard. looking at speedplays or maybe the new shimano stuff. if anyone gets the shimano and wants to unload your speedplay zeros let me know (kiwi)??? i have a set of the time impact mag (came on a used bike i bought) never road them, but heard good stuff about them…anyway trying to sell them. anyone? for those riding the DA pedal…how much different are they than look? i clipped in them before but never rode them…they felt more “crisp” to me.
Hmm…I am currently riding on speedplays and thinking of switching to DA because it has a bit wider platform. I feel like I get hot spots in the ball of my foot during long rides and wondered if something like DA would help. But your post says you don’t notice much diffference while riding. Any others with experience in this area?
The carbon soles are so stiff you could ride on a thumbtack and not get a hotspot. I think hotspots are more product of the shoe footbed, and the angle at which the pedals are mounted. I got rid of my ball-of-foot hotspot by switching shoes this year (to the Specialized Body Geometry Carbon). Others have had success with various sole inserts.
I’m growing partial to the DA pedals because they have a little less lateral rocking motion than the Zeroes. I’m running both right now and switching back and forth to make a final racing setup decision. It’s likely going to be the DAs. They are also easier to maintain than the Zeroes.
for those riding the DA pedal…how much different are they than look? i clipped in them before but never rode them…they felt more “crisp” to me.
Very different, and very much better. I tried to pull “up and out” and couldn’t get it to come out. They click in so smooth and easy that it’s surprising at first.
BTW – I got the 2004 DA 7800 pedals on Ebay brand new, in a sealed box on a “Buy it Now” click for $138, plus $6 shipping. Received them in four days. The seller was “cuziride”, FWIW.
Yes, I notice a difference. As primarily a RR, stability are more important. Climbing and sprinting, I notice a difference. I just got the new DA or LA pedals 2 weeks ago, so I haven’t had long term impressions, but I like them better than my zeroes already. More stable feeling, no hotspots that I got with Speedplay, even with nike OCLV shoes. I would like to try the new time mag ti pedals though. They seem to be very popular in the pro peleton as well in local races. The new DA is much better than my old PP396’s as well. I would say Shimano has a pedal far better than look at this point. So smooth for both in and out. If i had any complaint it would be the lateral float at the toe. But i think there is a cleat to eliminate this? Anyone know?
I chose to go with Eggbeaters last year when I bought pedals. I picked them because of the 4 sided entry and they are easy out as well. May think that egg beaters are for MTB only, but they introduced a road cleat last year which has too small pontoons on each side of the cleat to prevent damage when walking.
The only down side I have found is that I recently switched to SIDI shoes, and the adapter plate for the SPD pedals has too ridges on each side of the cleat to prevent my using the road cleat.