I currently ride a 2008 P2C and have the opportunity to purchase a 2009 Trek TTX 9.9 for a discounted rate. Has anyone compared, or ridden the 2 bikes?
I own a TTX, the geometry on both is fairly similiar as far as stack and reach go, both have reversible seats. the p2c has one frame drink bottle mount, the trek 2. dont think there are really many differences except the Trek is infinitely cooler
Thanks for the input. I don’t think my decision is any easier though.
I own a TTX, the geometry on both is fairly similiar as far as stack and reach go, both have reversible seats. the p2c has one frame drink bottle mount, the trek 2. dont think there are really many differences except the Trek is infinitely cooler
You must not be familiar with how stack and reach actually works. When I look at the geometries of the TTX and P2, I see a pretty big difference in fit.
A 48cm P2C has almost the exact same reach as a small TTX, 38.9mm vs 39mm. However, they have an almost 6 cm difference in stack!
The Medium TTX is equivalent to the 54cm P2C. They have again a 1mm reach difference. However a 1.8cm stack difference. Still quite a big difference.
The Large TTX has the same reach as the 56cm P2c within 1mm but has an astounding 3.7 cm more stack.
Quite frankly the TTX is a cool bike. I really wanted one. However, the geoemtry just doesn’t fly for an average proportioned person who wants to ride steep and low. Especially a small person.
Seriously? TTX FTW.
I’m just under 5’10 with a 31" inseam. Long torso and short legs. I’m not too familiar with stack and reach. Do you think the TTX is better suited for my body type? I ride with a fairly aggressive position.
Why do you want to slow down??
In my unprofesional opinion. No.
What is your opportunity or true cost of ownership?
In other words do this calculation:
(Price of 2008 P2C + Price of the TTX) - Costs recovered by selling 2008 P2C = Approximate True Cost
For example if you paid $2000 for the P2C and $2500 for the TTX, but could only get $1500 for the P2C now, then your true cost is about $3000, assuming you care about stuff like that. You may aso need to swap out stems, and spacers, and get “re-fit” so that might cost more.
If you bought the P2C and like it, why change?
Bob
That’s a backward looking calc that confuses the decision making. Proper way to assess it is to look at (cost of new bike - recoverable $ for old bike). So it costs $1000 to buy the Trek ($2500-$1500).
While your original calc may be correct by textbook definitions, it has no real world application other than in “budget” and “allocation” circles (i.e. my boss told me my TCO can only be X").
It makes me want to flip a table when a very smart recent MBA grad comes in with such an analysis. Things in the past that can’t be undone don’t figure into today’s decision.
My post probably comes accross as a flame (not intended), but it’s a philosophical hot button for me ;). Maybe I just had too much coffee this morning.
My sponsored team ride TTX’s but I’m not obligated to ride them. I switch out bikes every year and am looking at switching. My true cost after everything is said and done is probably under $500. What to do??
Good thing I’m not an MBA, nor do I claim to have any financial expertise.
I agree things in the past cannot be undone, but you’ve still bought the original bike. It’s still a sunk cost. If the OP is concerend about the total **investment **in bikes (i.e. he has a budget) then he has to look at Old + New costs. He can offset this investment by selling the old, but he’s still spent those funds and will take a loss, unless he gets his purchase price back. Thus, the cost of purchasing the bike the P2 price plus the difference between TTX Price and P2C selling price and any extra costs like fit and components.
Further, if the conditions to obtain maximal resale value for an item (Selling a used P2C in a recession) are not optimal, then the costs to obtain the new bike may in fact be higher.
But, if the poster doesn’t care about money and wants a Trek, then that’s that.
Bob
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well if not for the team sponsor deal I wouldn’t bother switching
but you might get some kudos with the team and sponsor by doing so, and it shouldn’t be any slower of a bike if you can fit yourself on it well.
given that the frames themselves are probably a wash aerodynamically, if you have to run a lot of spacer on one that might make it slower.
Then it’s a fit issue…If you fit on the bike and have disposable income for this, sure why not, new toys are great. But, if the P2C is working well and you can torch the course with it, why change?
Bob