Okay…I slagged Bush a little the other day for being directly responsible for driving the Texas Rangers into eventual bankruptcy. Now it’s the current president’s turn. First, he gets into it with Republicans at a private get-together the other day and now he’s dueling it out with hecklers. No such thing as quiet dignity in a president anymore, it seems. Just part of the reality TV generation, I guess.
I think you could easily say the last four are head and shoulders above Obama in the quiet dignity category whether you agree with their policies.
Obama is nothing but a Chicago thug who was brought up to believe no one can say anything about him. The proof is out there as her repeatedly goes after anyone that disagrees with him or says something he doesn’t like. Thats why Gibbs makes the perfect scumbag PS for this administration. Both of them have chips on their shoulders the size of Texas
Want proof? Just simply go back to candidate Obama confronting a liberal reporter for saying something about the size of his ears. That is the first example and there have been dozens since. Just watch him anytime anyone says anything while he reading from his teleprompter. I bet his buddies at SEIU and his terroists friends have threatened more than a few with cement shoes.
Please, please, please tell me you mean George Bush 1.
Why would you exclude the other? What about him was brash and undignified? And we’ll just skip over his speaking ability unless you want people too start posting video of Obama off of the teleprompter.
Why would you exclude the other? What about him was brash and undignified?
Not sure comments like “Bring em on” and “Dead or alive” that Bush used to sell his phony reasons to go to war would classify as quiet and dignified. Most objective people saw W as a loud and brash Texan eager to start wars.
Why would you exclude the other? What about him was brash and undignified?
Not sure comments like “Bring em on” and “Dead or alive” that Bush used to sell his phony reasons to go to war would classify as quiet and dignified. Most objective people saw W as a loud and brash Texan eager to start wars.
Of course, you don’t see that but many do.
I guess we have far different opinions on what would be considered brash or undignified.
Why would you exclude the other? What about him was brash and undignified?
Not sure comments like “Bring em on” and “Dead or alive” that Bush used to sell his phony reasons to go to war would classify as quiet and dignified. Most objective people saw W as a loud and brash Texan eager to start wars.
Of course, you don’t see that but many do.
The difference of note there, is that GWB's bravado and contempt were not aimed at those in the US who disagreed with his policies.
The difference of note there, is that GWB’s bravado and contempt were not aimed at those in the US who disagreed with his policies.
You don’t think that Bush/Cheney were full of contempt for those who did not agree with their policies?
Their constant bending laws in their favour (wiretapping, enemy combatants, secret prisons) is the epitome of contempt for those who disagree with them.
**I guess we have far different opinions on what would be considered brash or undignified. **
Yeah, you are probably right. For example, you probably think flying out to a carrier and having your picture taken in front of a Mission Accomplished sign years before there was any evidence of actually accomplishing anything (that is still in effect) is very quiet and dignified. To me, that was unnecessary bravado that sent the wrong message to the people in Iraq and around the world.
I would say I cannot think of a single President with less quiet dignity that George W. Bush, and I mean that in all seriousness.
Now it’s hard to argue against his father, or Jimmy Carter (ignore his policies) or some others in terms of quiet dignity but W is definitely not in their league. I know he has even stated publicly that he wished he was less abrasive when he made some of his comments about bin Laden and the war in Iraq. In his case, if he actually had carried himself with quiet dignity, America would have suffered far less than it had or will continue.
I think Bush showed lots of dignity in his later years, particulary when he refused to get into the pit bull attacks that Cheney continued leading up to the 2008 election. Cheney has always been a nasty sort but Bush distanced himself and in my view, should have done it years earlier.
The difference of note there, is that GWB’s bravado and contempt were not aimed at those in the US who disagreed with his policies.
You don’t think that Bush/Cheney were full of contempt for those who did not agree with their policies?
Their constant bending laws in their favour (wiretapping, enemy combatants, secret prisons) is the epitome of contempt for those who disagree with them.
You did mean to post in pink, right?
Surely you jest. You really think that GWB/Cheney pushed the patriot act through so they could spy on Americans who disagree with them politically. Alrighty then.
ps. Don’t forget, you’re defending this against a president that has used the term “teabaggers” to describe a fairly important political movement, and who’s admin has continually sought to undermine and destroy the news network that most often has critical analysis of him and his actions.
I don’t have a problem with the President breaking from a canned speech to address someone’s shouts.
I find politicians who hold a press conference, then don’t answer a single g-damn question in plain English to be far worse. Obama may be one of those, too, but this isn’t so bad, in my book.
All you do is feed the beast when you give those protesters the attention they so ardently desire. I think it lowers the dignity of the office, too, though there have been many, many presidents that have done that already…
Obama is nothing but a Chicago thug who was brought up to believe no one can say anything about him. The proof is out there as her repeatedly goes after anyone that disagrees with him or says something he doesn’t like.
I’m curious why you would call Obama a thug. What about his record would lead you to believe that he is either aggressive or violent?
On the more general topic, Bush was pretty notorious for taking pretty serious measures to avoid having anyone who would heckle him at any of his appearances. That’s a different style, but I still think it shows thin skin.
As far is this interaction, from the report I saw, I don’t think it was undignified. He answered the man’s complaint with an attempt at humor (whether or not you think it was funny) and then pointing out that he was working on it. I think that’s dignified and appropriate.
yes, that quiet dignity when Reagan told a heckler to shut up or when Cheney told an adversary to go f@ck himself.
Frankly, I have a less of a problem with Obama taking on a heckler and responding as opposed to the GWB method of hand selecting your crowd and then having security whisking any hecklers away—especially when they are asking harder questions than the press.
Obama is nothing but a Chicago thug who was brought up to believe no one can say anything about him. The proof is out there as her repeatedly goes after anyone that disagrees with him or says something he doesn’t like.
I’m curious why you would call Obama a thug. What about his record would lead you to believe that he is either aggressive or violent?
On the more general topic, Bush was pretty notorious for taking pretty serious measures to avoid having anyone who would heckle him at any of his appearances. That’s a different style, but I still think it shows thin skin.
As far is this interaction, from the report I saw, I don’t think it was undignified. He answered the man’s complaint with an attempt at humor (whether or not you think it was funny) and then pointing out that he was working on it. I think that’s dignified and appropriate.
Oh its not in your face type thuggery but lets just say his mentors taught him well. Just research “Chicago style politics” “Acorn” and SEIU. They know how to get what they want and these are his comrades. Maybe also listen to what he says a little deeper when he speaks of his agendas. His lies, and they are huge ones where he says one thing in front of the cameras and does the complete opposite 5 minutes later, are on record.
Lastly listen to him when he doesnt get what he wants. Its very telling.