I’m at my wit’s end with these dumb things.
I have a new confuser running XP Pro and an old one running 98SE. This should be easy to get them talking to each other, right? Well, I must be missing something, because I’ve been fighting them for two days. I have a hub on the way today, but why do I need a hub if it is just the two of them? Shouldn’t I be able to just plug them into one another and tell them to shake hands and play nice?
Nope, doesn’t work that way… Just add your login from each machine to the others administrator group. Right click, my computer → manage.
Just checking - If only two computers, no hub or router in between, are you using a cross-over cable?
No, just network cable.
You will need the hub… You can just plug them in to each other…
Okay, I’ll wait for DHL to bring me my hub.
wait for the hub then. Other wise you need to buy or make a cross over cable to directly connect two computers. Run the networking wizard on XP to share folders and everything else should be easy-peasy. next question are you also looking to share a broadband connection?
Yes. I have a second network card inbound with the hub to run the DSL off the XP. That’ll work, right?
Plug the dsl into the hub and your machines into the hub…
So I don’t need an extra network card in one machine?
I haven’t set up that way before but I think that works as well… then the host machine will always need to be on in order for the second machine to have internet…
Mine is set up like I said… What dsl modem are you using?
I really have no idea. That is in the main office. I’m my own island with the exception of sharing the DSL. I’m not on the company network. I believe it is SBC.
When you get your hub, try to plug your dsl into the hub and both machines into the hub…
Maybe this will help… http://www.worldstart.com/tips/tips.php/1085
With 2 NICs in one machine that allows you to use Microsofts internet connection sharing (ICS) protocal, and run one firewall. Downside as already mentioned that machine must always be on if other machine wants to hit internet
If you don’t have alot of experience with IP addressing and gateways, plugging DSL line directly into a hub could also be tricky.
I think you are quickly coming up to the point where it’s more convientant and easier to get a consumer-grade router ($70-ish) (linksys, D-link etc) that can act as a firewall, Internet gateway, and DHCR server if needed.
Okay. I now have two computers running into a hub and an extra NIC in my XP machine that is connecting to the internet. I’ve run the Network wizard on both machines and yet all they see are themselves.
The internet on the XP machine is running nicely, obviously.
Are you setting up a domain or workgroup? If you are using a workgroup are all your computers in the same one?
Here’s the latest curiousity: The two computers will not see each other and yet I have the internet working through the hub via the xp system.
Connections:
XP System: 2 cards 1 to Hub 1 to DSL
98SE System: 1 card to hub
Internet works on both.
WTF?
If you really want some fun, make it a wireless network and deal with the issues that come with that…
Here is kind of what I would due:
open a command prompt on each computer (start → run → cmd for the XP machines, start → run → command for the 98 machine)
type ipconfig (it might be winipconfig for the 98 machine)
write down the IP address of each machine.
Go to each machine and try and ping the other two
type ping 127.0.0.1 on each machine (this is the loopback address for the card and will test functionality)
if you don’t get a response the card isn’t working right. if you do get a response
type the IP address of the other machines ping 100.100.100.100 and ping 100.100.100.101 and see if they respond. If they both respond they are on the network and visible. If not let me know and we can brain storm a bit more.
OK try this:
First I assume that its XP SP2 - so turn OFF the windows firewall for the time being (go to control panel > security center to adjust). That will just mess you up for a while. If you have a firewall setup on the 98SE turn it off to.
on the XP machine: Start > run > cmd In the command box type in “ipconfig” and press enter. Note the IP address (most likely something like 192.168.0.1)
On the win98se machine: Start > run > winipcfg Make sure that the network card you are using is selected from the drop-down box and find the IP address (it should be someting like 192.168.0.1 as well. The first 3 numbers should match the XP box’s address).
From the XP machine in the command prompt box typs in “ping XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX” replacing the X’s with the IP address of the 98SE machine. If you get “request timed out” then your computers are not able to communicate. If you get replies then things are OK.
This will prove if you can talk to one another. I suspect that they can, and if they cannot, you might have a desktop firewall enabled that you are unaware of.
crikey…let me post this and see what else you were looking for.
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