OT -- Photo essay of motorcycle trip to Chernobyl

Very interesting in a “holy shit, I haven’t thought about that in a while” kinda way.

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/

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A friend sent this to me, too. It is so amazing. Also amazing the terrible things we do to our own people (the human race) and planet.

wow - mindblowing

Thanks for sharing that Ironstevie

Nick.

pretty awesome. the maker of the site has written it real well.

Very interesting in a “holy shit, I haven’t thought about that in a while” kinda way.

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/

Exactly. Man that is depressing and amazing. Thanks for the post.

Tucker

Amazing! Great read and photos. Thanks for posting.

Very moving, I learned more about that incident from that page than anything else I have read. That site would impress and touch Tom D, if anybody has his email they should send him the link for when he get back.

The power of the internet. I really am amazed by those pictures

My bro in law was a medic in the Air Farce and got to meet some of the kids from C-land. They are all dead now, but the US airmen did a lot for them at Christmas.
He still talks of the plight of those kids and hugs his everyday, and thanks God that that wasn’t our kids. G

Wow, Thanks for posting! I have been dying to get my motorcycle out of storage before the wildflowers melt away with the summer heat.

SteveH

Yikes, did you see what you wrote? “thanks God that that wasn’t our kids”??? What the hell is THAT?

I think he meant “our kids” as in the children we are currently raising and who live in our house. I don’t think he meant good thing it happened to those ruskies and not us yanks…

My thoughts exactly: what the hell IS up with that?

Very powerful. One of those events where you remember where you were when the news broke. I was in Panama City Beach on my honeymoon with my new bride–also taking the opportunity to get in a little training.

Oh, you’re right, that’s a smaller monstrosity…

As a nuclear engineer I feel it’s my professional obligation to answer any questions I can about the incident and how it relates to other reactors worldwide. The biggest thing I take issue with, or maybe it’s just a pet peeve, is how she describes ‘radiation’ as being in certain places when, in fact, it’s actually radioactive material that is located in certain places. Although an enormous tradegy, as a worst case scenario for a nuclear accident (one that is physically impossible in the western reactors), this isn’t really that bad. As a point of reference, 100,000 people were killed by a single chemical plant accident in India not too long ago. I couldn’t help but notice that the city doesn’t look much different than Butte, Montana. :slight_smile:

There’s been an interesting conversation about it on TNO as well.

http://www.trinewbies.com/phorum2/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=24014&posts=14

Doesn’t radioactive material emit radiation? What does a dosimeter measure?

And is it supposed to be comforting that this is NOT a “worst case” scenario? Or that chemical accidents can be as bad?

That’s the point, this IS a worst case scenario, in fact it is much worse than a worst case scenario would be for a western reactor. Three Mile Island is about as bad as it could get with current generation reactors (the next generation reactors are even safer). Keep in mind, there were zero deaths/injuries associated with a full core melt at Three Mile Island. There was a very modest release of radioactive gas from the reactor that, if you happend to be right next to the reactor, lifted radiation doses just above background. You get more when you get a x-ray at the dentist. The worst thing that happened was that the utility lost a bunch of money because the reactor was beyond repair.

correct, radioactive material emits radiation which a gieger counter measures (a dosimeter measures damage to a metalic foil material). I just take issue with the image that radiation floats around in space. Most of the long lived isotopes (uranium, plutonium, and other actinides) are only harmful if you ingest them because the radiation emmited from them cannot penetrate your skin. The rest of the stuff (mostly fission products and activated graphite) will be decayed away in 100 years. At that point you’ll recieve very little dose unless you eat dirt or crops from a contaminated area.