OT: For you Chess nuts

I can usually figure these puzzles out pretty quickly,but this one stumped me. I gave up after 30 minutes,and checked the answer. This position was created by F.Amelung in 1897.It is a puzzle that has since defeated many good chess players,and one cannot wonder wheter it has ever occurred naturally in a real game. If it did,and you were White and about to play,how could you force mate in two? White to play and mate in two. http://www.chessbase.com/puzzle/christmas2003/pics/puzz4-02.jpg

f6-f7??

Dan

I cheated and googled. Stumped me too.

Ya thats gotta be it.

F5- G4. Nope thats a Draw Black cant move.

MOve Pe5 or K to E row and Black move PG5;
Move R H8 and black takes pawn, Either move white cant checkmate next move.

Ok, I must be missing something cause this does not seem that hard. and Im not that good at chess

That’s not it. F6-F7. Black can still move his pawn or capture white’s pawn with his king. White can’t mate in his next move.

Argh!!! Took me 45 minutes, but I got it. Now I remember why I stopped playing chess. My friends all went from USCF 1450 (where I could hang with them without difficulty) up to 1900, when I couldn’t even hope to hang.

Frustrated as I am about how long it took… I love the problem. Thanks for posting it.

He moves his pawn, You promote Pawn from f7- f8 (Queen) Checkmate,

Capture White pawn with queen, Rook takes pawn MATE
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OK, it takes 3 with the pawn, If Black then moves pawn, White moves pawn promotes to Q, black takes pawn with King white takes pawn with rook for mate.

Googled answer Very Clever.

F-5 to F-4

Black King is forced to move to G6. White rook moves to G8 in response. Checkmate.

Uhmmm, Cant move King into Mate. Black Pawn At G5 protects F4

Sorry. I meant G4

King can still escape to F7.

No. There’s a pawn checking that square.

Eh? F7 is directly above the pawn. Pawn is no threat there.

CAT:

I was surprised to find a chess puzzle here, but thanks! That’s actually a fairly easy one, but cute, and demonstrates the beauty of chess. You can pick up numerous chess problem books online or from your local bookseller. I have two by Reinfeld. Laszlo Polgar (father of the girl twin GMs) has a huge book of problems that could last all of us a lifetime.

They (chess problem books) are great reading just before bed, IMHO.

-Robert

<I was surprised to find a chess puzzle here, but thanks! That’s actually a fairly easy one, but cute, and demonstrates the beauty of chess. You can pick up numerous chess problem books online or from your local bookseller. I have two by Reinfeld. Laszlo Polgar (father of the girl twin GMs) has a huge book of problems that could last all of us a lifetime.

Thanks for the info Robert.

You must be a pretty amazing player to find that move easy.I dont think I could have ever figured it out.

so what’s the answer?

I think this is correct - H5 to G6 then H8 to H7?

H5-G6 - A rarely used move, but I believe the rules allow it - at least that is what my dad taught me when I was a kid.

SPOILER

answer:

  1. f7! Kxh5
  2. Rxh7

+mate

it’s an easy one, for anyone that’s studied or played chess competitively… 5 mins to do here.

If its easy then why is your answer wrong?

if f7 then K-g7. and no mate

The right answer is

e7 Kxh5

Rxh7 +mate