I feel like Tom is really underselling the Orca.
The newest Orca (silver level) is the best carbon bike I’ve ever ridden. The ride is super comfortable but it’s stiffness is completely there. The handling is snappy and quick, but not “twitchy.”
The fact that the Orbea bikes have a bit more stack than others is very nice. It keeps me from needing to run additional spacers.
I don’t know if there are many road bikes out there that could make a person happier.