is anybody using this stuff. I mentioned this post a couple months ago, but nobody seemed to answer. They make some pretty big claims, but I don’t know if they can back it up. Its not cheap at over $20 a bottle. Info on www.firstendurance.com
Bob
Never used it… but sounds simular to Endurox (except for the mushroom part of the contents).
FWIW Joe Moya
Maybe the mushrooms make you hallucinate that you are going faster
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I have been using Optygen for almost a year now, and have had a very positive response to it. In the interest of full disclosure, I am sponsored by the manufacturer - so I can’t comment on the price :0) other than to say that I would buy the product at retail if I had to…
I really hate to offer purely subjective/anecdotal data in response to a question like this, but I will say that the Optygen regimen has appeared to offer a benefit to me very much as advertised; notably my recovery from hard efforts, both in training and during a race is much improved. In training, I am able to train harder and longer before I exhibit symptoms of fatigue (on the immediate scale) or overtraining (on the macro-scale), and during a race, I appear able to more quickly recover from Z4 & 5 efforts than before the supplementation. I have pretty comprehensive training and HR logs from the last several years, and they definately support these conclusions.
I think there are a couple of things that really point to First Endurance (the manufacturer of Optygen) as a quality company: they guarantee the purity of the product (no false positives!) they guarantee all the ingredients are “legal,” and they print references to clinical studies - right on the bottle - to support all the claims they make. How many other companies do these things?
As an aside, there are a LOT of pro cyclists using Optygen these days, both on the domestic scene and abroad (Rodriguez and Leipheimer, Navigators team…) and some notable Tri-folk are starting to use it (Larsen for one.) Generally, this doesn’t mean a lot, given sponsorship and such, but almost all the domestic road pros that I know are using either Optygen or Athletes Octane (which is a very similar product) and most are paying for them. In a couple of years, my guess is that products like these will be a ubiquitous part of an athlete’s supplement regimen.
MH - 35+ and a cat 1 on the road, I need all the help I can get.