There is a new bracket (the A3) coming, that builds in the reach extender and tilt booster. So would take out the extender and wedge for you. However, the last discussion on timing for that looks like it won’t be available to the aftermarket until Q2 2026, which is probably a little longer than you wish to wait.
There isn’t another option at this point I’m afraid. It’s an ongoing effort to make it possible to update the positioning of older bars.
Also, I’d note that the wedge you’ve got is ASC Pro specific - not a general A3 item. It’s marginal on whether that is going to skew the load on the basebar.
Oh cool, great news. To make sure I understand, it’s a bracket with extension clamp + pad mount, with reach extender and extra tilt all integrated, and an A3 bottom? So that would replace the top 4 items in my list?
I waited 2 years for the reach extender, I can wait another year for the stack reducer. Besides, if everything on the bike were perfect I’d have no more excuses.
The aim of this one was to avoid the limitations of the adaptors - the A3 reach extender adds 24mm of stack, the A2 tilt booster adds stack and there are gaps in the tilt range - A2 native is 0-15, booster takes it to 18-27.
Also the A2 moves back a long way when tilted.
So the A3 bracket geometry is designed for minimal x change when tilted, 0-30deg tilt in any config, no other impact from extending the reach. And the barrels don’t fall out while you’re working on it.
Just a collection of refinements that will make the bikes/bars that come with it slightly better.
This won’t work with the ASC Pro, no? And even the Aeria Evo base bar
The other problem I have with my current set up is the M6 bolt. The supplied one only goes up to 100mm and I need a 110mm (because of all the stack). Checked the website and there’s nothing longer than 100mm
The ASC Pro requires its own specific brackets (that flip forward and back already).
Nothing for the Aeria 1 bar, the bolt spacing is too limiting to be worth making upgrade parts for. And that platform was superseded 10 years ago. The Aeria Evo was the bracket to provide upgrades to the older product and bikes that still had A1 basebars.
Bolts are a frequent topic of conversation. PD uses enough of each size of bolt up to 100mm to be able to justify the quantities. Stepping past 100mm the 10,000 piece per size MOQs become a bit of a problem - years to work through those numbers.
As mentioned - alternatives are being examined but there is no timeline target for this.
A few units are shipping to the USA - I don’t know when they will arrive or whether they’ve all been backordered by stores. But it could be worth getting in touch with customer services in the USA to be notified when they land.
Readily available will take another few months.
From the specs:
*Min Length: 340mm: 230mm or 400mm: 290mm (from the front of clamp)
That is the min distance from the front of the clamp to the end of the extension.
To work that out relative to your aerobar length you need to know how far the pad will be set back.
For the Tempus - I’m sure you could talk to them about getting the length you require.
Also for the Tempus - if you have your position measurements (Pad XY and aerobar length) I can calculate which extension length would work.
My Pad reach (to back of pad) and stack is tall and narrow at 412mm and 653mm. I’m bit of a short torso inflexible normally.
Measuring my current existing bike aero extension setup on a Tririg Apha One cockpit, the length from the back of the elbow cups to the tip of the aero extension (before Shimano single button shifters) is 420mm.
My guess-timate is that the 400m bar should still fit seeing that the Tempus’s aero bar clamp point is almost below the elbow cups, while my current Tririg aero bar clamp point is so much more forward.
@cyclenutnz, thanks for the further clarification. I have always been on the fit limits of pass frame. Been told my 652mm Stack and 412mm reach is an unusually tall/short combination.
i didn’t actually consider the L size base on this info from Ventum.
The min Pad X of 426mm was beyond my current Pad X of 412mm.
I was only looking at size S and M, which was also more in line with my previous Shiv S size frame and current PRFive 50 size frames.
My dilemma is:
S size puts me at the upper limit of the max 652mm stack with no options to go higher in the future if I ever need more comfort. Also the front-center of 562mm is much lower than my current PRfives 584mm which would worsen my toe overlap.
M size puts me at the lower limit of the min 412mm reach. I figure in the rarer case I need less reach, I can get longer aftermarket elbow cups. But the 826mm standover height is worrying. (My inseam is only 783mm)
How much armpad do you have behind your elbow?
Your extension length is longer than mine - I am 193cm.
From the numbers it seems like the Pad X situation may be made more difficult by really long pads.
These seem to have 10-15mm more space behind as compared to the Ergo+ when mounted in the most rearward position.
For the size S, with the PD A3A high riser kit, the stack is maxed out at 652mm. Unless I get some longer bolts (longer than the 100mm bolts in the kit) and stack some more spaces on top of the A3A risers.
I’m piecing together this same system now for a P-Series build. Any idea what top tube storage box that is? It get’s pretty pricey stuff once you add it all together I was hoping my team had a discount code but no such luck.
grossen Storage Box wasn’t clear enough? It’s the ATTK XL
It certainly adds up. I’m well aware of this and cost effectiveness is always a consideration but it’s a constant struggle to keep manufacturing costs down without compromising the quality.
Apologies if this has been asked and answered before.
Is there a tilt adapter that works with “clip-on” style profile design round bars? I.e., such that I could get 15-20 degrees of tilt, but the stack risers remain vertical.
I was hoping my team had a discount code but no such luck.