I’m currently riding the Speedmax CF 8.0 rim brake. An I’m looking to upgrade to the CF SLX disc if it seems like a good fit. The specs are much different. I’m a little concerned with the reach of the CF SLX disc.
I’ve been through a few fittings and no fitters ever seem satisfied with getting me enough reach on my current bike.
I’m slightly under 6’2†and my inseam is slightly under 37â€. According to the canyon website I am right at the cusp of M and L. Which doesn’t make sense considering how much shorter this frame is.
I was thinking I would most likely be an XL.
Could I get some guidance on how to best to see if this bike would be suitable for me?
I’m not married to my current fit as it has been something that has never felt great to me over the 2 years I’ve had this bike
Whalendds,
Could I ask you to wheel out your current Speedmax and follow THESE INSTRUCTIONS to get back to me here with…
Saddle HeightPad YPad X
From there I can prescribe the new, disc brake Speedmax SLX at your current position and riff on the whole “…no fitters ever seem satisfied with getting me enough reach” thing - 'cause that piques my interest.
If measuring your old bike isn’t possible get back to me and I’ll make my hypothesis based on your height and inseam.
Appreciate your help in advance !
I am 6 foot 1 and currently ride a 56 Felt
Arm pad stack is 650
Arm pad reach is 490
Saddle height is 750
I seem to be on the edge reach wise of the Large ?
Not sure about base bar etc either , assume the riser allows me to ‘angle ‘ the extensions ?
Sorry dumb questions I am sure
Steve,
Never any dumb questions - bring 'em all! Based on the Pad Y of 650, the Pad X of 490…
If you get the Speedmax CFR or SLX it would be a size Large but the Large wont meet your seat height. Can I confirm that 750. If we do a Medium then seat height is good to go but the cockpit maxes out at 484 and you’re at 490. Hmmm…
If you get the Speedmax CF then the Medium works and it works with stock stem (80mm) and you’d push the pads out 1 hole shy of max.
There are risers that allow you to detail and perfect your pad height (Pad Y) and on the CFR/SLX there are wedged risers to give you tilt - on the CF the base bar is round you can tilt to your exact specs.
Ian
I was measuring reach to the middle of the pad so we now have extra to play with I think !
UKINNY,
Ah, okay, got it. The pad is roughly 100mm front to back so let’s call your Pad X 445ish and leave the Pad Y at 650 and prescribe from there.
If you get the CFR or SLX then get the Medium. You’re nearly dead center with the short stem, mid spacer, mid extension - all that stuff comes stock in the USA so it’s a great spot!
If you get the CF then it’s a small is best (you’ll fit a medium too, if availability is an issue - but the small is best). Plenty of room to move up/down, fore/aft in the front-end and you’ll have the water bottle bosses behind the post exposed too.
Ok glad I actually measured as these don’t seem to add up.
Current setup on Speedmax cf 8.0.
Seat height- 801
Pad y-705
Pad x- 445
Let me know your thoughts
Whalendds,
For the new Canyon Speedmax SLX disc brake bike you’d need a size Large with all the front end config that comes stock in the USA: short stem, mid pedestal, medium aero extension. Seat height will allow you to access the water bottle bosses behind the post - it’s all perfect!
I’m looking at the Speedmax CF 8 Disc because I need the aerobars (extension and pads) to pedestal independently left and right because my left humerus is 2" shorter.
I’m currently on a Speed Concept with a Pad X 510, Pad Y of 605 (on the lower side, other side is 50mm more) and seat height at 760.
Hello gentlemen, are there any solutions out there to increase the angle of the aerobats higher than by using the maximum angle piece Canyon has supplied?
Ronnie
Hello gentlemen, are there any solutions out there to increase the angle of the aerobats higher than by using the maximum angle piece Canyon has supplied?
Ronnie,
If you’re talking about the Speedmax CF… that bike is built with a Profile-Design Aeria Ultimate bracket that can provide tilt of the aerobars with the micro adjust of the mounting screws. I think the max is ~10deg.
If you’re talk about the Speedmax CFR or SLX … those bikes are built with Canyon’s own cockpit and that build-kit has a 3deg tilt wedge, a 7deg tilt wedge… and I don’t know if this is intended but I built up Slowman’s SLX with them stacked upon each other for a 10deg tilt.
Let me inquire with the engineers and make sure that’s acceptable.
I’m currently on a Speed Concept with a Pad X 510, Pad Y of 605 (on the lower side, other side is 50mm more due to humerus difference) and seat height at 760.
Hey Ian, sorry if this has been asked already: The CF also comes with what looks like a 15-25mm spacer under the stem. Is there a lower version of the bento for people who would like to remove that spacer and keep the top of the stem aligned with the box? The new gen of bikes is pretty tall, so this would be a nice option.
Edit: I see it does exist. Found the “short bento” in the accessories list.
I was wondering if you could help assist. I have my eye on the (Large) Speedmax CF 8 DISC, but wanted to confirm with you that my measurements are within specs
I had a 58" Cervelo P2
The only numbers that I can find from my last fitting are the following
In desperate need for some advice! I’m looking at getting last year’s model of the speedmax cf slx 8 rim brake, or the new cf8 disc di2. Looking at the geometry I’m worried I would be on the limit of the lower end of the small size frame on the cf slx. In regards the new cf 8 I’m worries it might be too relaxed. Would like your advice if one would fit better than the other or would either work as well?
Currently ride a giant trinity comp 2015.
My height 173cm.
Inseem 78cm
Saddle height 700mm
Centre of BB to back of arm pad 430mm
Centre of BB to base bar 550mm
Centre of BB to top of arm pad 610
Centre of my saddle behind BB is 105mm
Cranks 165mm.
These measurements are taken from my bike set-up currently. I’m not saying these are perfect for me by any means so need room to move either way once I have purchased new bike and gone for a fit.
Looking at a Speedmax CF8 or CF SLX 8.0. Based on my inseam (750 mm) the sizing chart says XS. Would like your opinion if this is the correct size.
Height - 171.cm
Inseam - 750mm
Seat Height - 705mm
Pad Y - 660mm
Pad X - 432mm
Silverman4,
I’m sorry I missed your post. Catching up now.
Based on the Pad Y of 660 and Pad X of 432…
For the SLX the XS wont bring the pads up high enough to meet you (XS maxes out at 635). I think the Small would be better and will meet you at 660/432* with the short stem & mid aero extension that comes stock in the USA and you’ll need the high spacer which comes stock in the parts box upon purchase.
For the CF again, you’re dead center for 660/432* in a size Small.
*Now, if you’ll allow me… I’m kinda surprised by your Pad Y of 660 and Pad X of 432. It seems to me that you are riding higher and farther back that I’d expect. I want to wade into this progressively. If you have fused lumber vertebrae, a beer belly, or some other physical issue that keeps you from riding lower and longer than let’s keep you at 660/432 and you’re all set. If these numbers are off a road bike with clip-on aerobars or you’re sitting on a saddle well behind the bottom bracket or mismeasured or just an early/cautious position on an actual tri position than I want to suggest two things:
You can probably ride nearer to 600/460 in comfort, making power, and being a bit slipperier through the wind. AND…if you can get there or progress towards those numbers the CF in size small will go there with you…the SLX will get there too but you’ll need to get the “long stem” for that bike (the short stem maxes out at Pad X of 440). And the “short stem” is not just a stem, it’s the entire base bar cockpit and it doesn’t cost $60 it costs…well, more (I don’t know the price, I should, I’ll investigate).
Get back to me here with question/comments and I’ll reply quickly.
I’m looking at the Speedmax CF 8 Disc because I need the aerobars (extension and pads) to pedestal independently left and right because my left humerus is 2" shorter.
I’m currently on a Speed Concept with a Pad X 510, Pad Y of 605 (on the lower side, other side is 50mm more) and seat height at 760.
AKCrafty,
Your dimensions make you an outlier - your Pad Y of 605/655 is manageable and it puts you on a smaller sized bike. Your Pad Y of 510 is, in relation, very long, super long. So long that I’d almost want to check to see if it is a typo (I know it’s not a typo 'cuz you had to post twice to get my to respond and you typed 510 in both posts).
If you want to ride a Canyon Speedmax CF you’d need a size Small. One aerobar would be slammed and the other with ~50mm of pedestal (super easy to do with the Profile Design clip-ons). This bike - with the 70mm stem that comes stock - maxes out at Pad X of ~468. If you put on a 110mm stem you’d pretty much have your Pad X of 510. Canyon doesn’t make a 110 but that’s not an issue, the steer tube and base bar clamp are all standard on this bike so there are dozens of stem from which to choose.
Get back to me here if you have questions. I’ll respond quickly.
Hello gentlemen, are there any solutions out there to increase the angle of the aerobats higher than by using the maximum angle piece Canyon has supplied?
Ronnie,
If you’re talking about the Speedmax CF… that bike is built with a Profile-Design Aeria Ultimate bracket that can provide tilt of the aerobars with the micro adjust of the mounting screws. I think the max is ~10deg.
If you’re talk about the Speedmax CFR or SLX … those bikes are built with Canyon’s own cockpit and that build-kit has a 3deg tilt wedge, a 7deg tilt wedge… and I don’t know if this is intended but I built up Slowman’s SLX with them stacked upon each other for a 10deg tilt.
Let me inquire with the engineers and make sure that’s acceptable.
Ian
Ronnie,
I heard back from the engineer. Here’s his response:
Stacking these tilt wedges is officially not approved, since the spherical washers can not compensate for that angle.
I would not recommend this setup at this point.
In order to get more tilt on the arm rests I would use wedges right below the arm rests
This means that the max official tilt is 7 degrees on the SLX.
So, my next note is to Dan to say “don’t ride that bike 'til I tweak the tilt that I set up”.
Hello Ian, after advice on bike sizing for a canyon CF7 rim or the new CF7 disc…
190cm tall
85cm inseam
bike seat height from ctr of crank to top of seat = 84cm
172.5mm cranks
not sure about the x and y measurements as have never had a tri bike before… current is a road felt XL frame
let me know if you need any more dimensions.
Mike,
I suspect your Pad Y is roughly 670 and your Pad X is about 510. For the Speedmax CF you’re a size Large. The 90mm stem that comes stock on that bike will work well for you. You’ll probably ride pretty low so be ready set the aerobars slammed on the base bar with no pedestals and very little spacer under the stem.
I was wondering if you could help assist. I have my eye on the (Large) Speedmax CF 8 DISC, but wanted to confirm with you that my measurements are within specs
I had a 58" Cervelo P2
The only numbers that I can find from my last fitting are the following
Stack 559
Reach 437
Saddle Height 745
Saddle to Armrest 425
Cockpit 800
Seat Angle 78
Height 188 (A little bit over 6’2)
Inseam 84 (33.5)
Nick,
If you still have the P2 could you follow these instructions to get me your Pad Y/Pad X??? If not let me know and I’ll proceed with other numbers you’ve offered here.