@hogstuff - because I don’t care about “racing” in Kona. I care about winning in Kona. Or at least being in contention for the win, and trying to do that 6 weeks after an Ironman is, in my mind, foolish.
If you were as BAMF as Mary Beth Ellis you could do it. You should work on that…
That’s true. It would also, it seems based off empirical data, that it would help if i had something else MB has - a 2nd X chromosome instead of a Y. MB is exceptionally BAMF, but I can’t think of any men who have even come close to backing up multiple Ironmans on short rest. But I can think of several women. Ironically, in 2009, I swam on Tereza’s feet; this year, I swam on MB’s for the 2nd half of the swim. Tereza won IMLP the month before. MB won Regensburg. Women are just built “better” (it seems) for doing long stuff repeatedly.
How close were you going up Richter to the bike prime? Was there a “race” for it?
In a race you were traveling to and paying for accomodations or what have you - would you be more likely to pursue an award like that?
Great race - four points out there I teared up - seeing you in the lead, thinking of the kids when it sucked at mile 11, being passed by Sister Madonna 3 miles from the finish knowing she was done, and then getting near the finish, thinking of wife and kids. Epic day…
Brent
I was 2min back. Viktor Z went past me to be 2nd, I guess with the theory that if Jammer dropped out, then he’d get the prime. To me, that’s just taking your eye off the ball. I’d never worry about a prime in any long course race. I’d actually rather use the primes to get other guys to make dumb decisions. Like, if there was a prime that I was in contention to win, I’d rather push the pace just enough that the OTHER guy would really hammer to get it. When the prime was announced, I was really happy, because I was 95% sure someone would take what I’d think was a foolish risk to get it. And that was only going to help me.
Did you ease off the gas during last 10-15 km of run after realizing the gap you had? Did you use any caffeine supplements besides coke/pepsi during the run?
Congrats on an awesome race and well deserved victory!
I had a RedBull at special needs.
I eased off a bit. It never feels like you are easing off. More like you just stake out your place in the pain cave and sit there rather than venturing deeper inside…
Jordan, with a speech like that start writing as a side profession. Best speech ever.
My questions is about the mental game. Peter Reid was quoted as saying he counted during the run, “what else do you think about?” A: “nothiing, I count my steps. that’s it”.
Yes, Ironman runs can be that painful and lonely I suppose.
Some my Q is: what mental games/focus que’s/general “get 'er done” tactics do you use on the back half of the run to keep the rhythm and rid oneself of the Ironman negative talk that can creep in?
I don’t really remember. Reminds me a bit of my rowing career. I raced probably 50 times as a rower. In total, I’d say I have probably 5-10 seconds of memories from them, in total. I like to count seconds. I count 300s a lot. That’s five minutes. But a lot of time I lose track and then just start over.
I would say, generally, I think I’m just taking continual stock of the situation. I.e., how do I feel. But really, it’s just a blur. For most of the run, all I really remember is watching the clock on the escort car and the back of my lead biker.
I guess I’d say it’s what I do NOT think about more than what I do think about that I think matters. But I’d be lying if I said I had a really good answer. So much of it is just blank.
I’m interested to know where your mind is during a race. Are you rolling through data (speed, cadence, HR, time, form, counting the minutes to the next swig of water, etc), listening to your favorite “ride song” playing in your head, or something else ?
On the bike, I check power a lot. And cadence. My computer shows time, 3s power, cadence, avg. power for the current lap. I take laps every 30min. I try not to think too much about “stuff.” I like to focus on making sure I’m executing. Am I eating and drinking? How many calories have I had? How far until the next aid station? Do I need to empty a bottle before I get there? Basically, I think it’s “what do I need to be doing now - or soon - to make sure that my race goes according to plan?” I guess I just think about racing.
This is why I avoid training questions - in order to answer them specifically enough to be relevant, I have to provide more details than I think is appropriate. And if I don’t provide that detail, it’s largely irrelevant.
That is a good answer. I know that it’s vague and it’s not what the poster was specifically looking for. With all due respect, to the poster of the question, once you have been in the sport and training for a number of years, you can’t put this stuff in a silo or multiple silos - everything you do affects everything else. It’s all part of the same thing. People want specifics and silver bullets, but it does not work that way!
Say you said your longest ride was 100 miles - what does that mean exactly? That having one longer ride of 100 miles is optimal?
On a scale of 0 to Ironman Florida Poop Guy, how bad was the gas issue?
Let’s just say I’m VERY glad that I was wearing both a trisuit and the speedo underneath. If I had, for example, been wearing running shorts? Badness. Of course, running shorts are also faster to get out of… It was bad. I’ve had some “issues” before, but this was the worst by far. Really not sure why. Sometimes, I think it just “happens.” You know, the old adage.
Can we call you Crappstar now? Just kidding congrats.
EDIT: I was talking about it with Paulo. Here’s what I wrote, “I figured if I got passed by someone, I would have plenty of time to cleanup with a hose or something before the line. And well, if I didn’t get passed, I think you are allowed to be ‘dirty’ if you WIN.”
Sure, but if I see you at a race, I might, “take a giant shit on you.”
Well done Jordan on the race. I think you said you were wearing a Zoot prototype suit. What is the timeline of production that? How does it compare to the ZeroD and Kiwami suits?
What do the last 30mins before the gun goes off look like for you? Do you like to have time alone to gather your thoughts or do a Macca and have an entourage of support?
I know you just got your Shiv, but is there any desire from Specialized or yourself for you to be on a 2012 bike?
I was also wondering this when I saw Rasmus riding an “older” model at his last race.
Does Specialized care as much in Tri as say having the HTC team on 2012 bikes? There has to be a marketing benefit to them to have their best athletes on the latest equipment regardless if the older model is “better” or “faster”
Not implying anything untoward, but were you drug tested? Was the presence of testers/testing any better or worse than other years, or same old same old?
Did you think at all about being a new father at any point in the race and if so did that give you an additional mental boost, or was it just business as usual and focus exclusively on the task at hand?
As a point of reference, I’m sure very few of us age groupers think a lot of our families at work, but I think many do think of them at racing, mainly because training and racing takes away from family, while work is there to provide for them.
In your case, racing and training are work.
Just interested if this ever came into play in your mind on race day.
This is why I avoid training questions - in order to answer them specifically enough to be relevant, I have to provide more details than I think is appropriate. And if I don’t provide that detail, it’s largely irrelevant.
That is a good answer. I know that it’s vague and it’s not what the poster was specifically looking for. With all due respect, to the poster of the question, once you have been in the sport and training for a number of years, you can’t put this stuff in a silo or multiple silos - everything you do affects everything else. It’s all part of the same thing. People want specifics and silver bullets, but it does not work that way!
Say you said your longest ride was 100 miles - what does that mean exactly? That having one longer ride of 100 miles is optimal?
I was basing my question on recent threads of IM prep. I was more curious whether he covers the distance (180km) in ‘mileage’ or ‘time’ in the saddle so to speak, I should have been more clear.
I was basing my question on recent threads of IM prep. I was more curious whether he covers the distance (180km) in ‘mileage’ or ‘time’ in the saddle so to speak, I should have been more clear.
It’s good to be clear or clearer. I have my own ideas on this, but this is Jordan’s thread so I will let him answer the question.
I’m sure very few of us age groupers think a lot of our families at work, but I think many do think of them at racing, mainly because training and racing takes away from family, while work is there to provide for them.
Dev
Not to hijack, but Dev makes a great point here…well said.
It sounds like a well executed race. I’m curious though, is there any part of your plan that didn’t got well? In other words, what will you do differently next time?
And congrats, great performace and I loved reading your speech.
Well done Jordan on the race. I think you said you were wearing a Zoot prototype suit. What is the timeline of production that? How does it compare to the ZeroD and Kiwami suits?
What do the last 30mins before the gun goes off look like for you? Do you like to have time alone to gather your thoughts or do a Macca and have an entourage of support?
No idea on the timeline. I would guess fall 2012 at the earliest. But I really don’t know.
For me, those last 30min are pretty quiet. Finish up with bike. Last trip to the washroom if I need it (I did). Take my PreRace. Put on the wetsuit and get a good solid warm-up in (15min+). I’m glad I can be pretty relaxed in the morning of the race. They shot some photos and videos, but basically, I just get to do my routine, which is awesome.
I know you just got your Shiv, but is there any desire from Specialized or yourself for you to be on a 2012 bike?
I was also wondering this when I saw Rasmus riding an “older” model at his last race.
Does Specialized care as much in Tri as say having the HTC team on 2012 bikes? There has to be a marketing benefit to them to have their best athletes on the latest equipment regardless if the older model is “better” or “faster”
There would be, I think, next year. I.e., the nosecone Shiv is current NOW. But I would think they might ask us to ride the no nosecone bike next year. I am not sure. Of course, given that the nosecone is faster, there might be some OTHER 2012 bikes that you haven’t seen. Yet… And that is ALL I will say…
