What’s this all really about? Can someone point me to a neutral article?
I read yesterday that with the Wall Street / Bank bailouts, the taxpayers already made $10B over and above the amount owed, and stand to make $20B when all is said and done.
GM hasn’t come close…Why no protests there?
What’s this all really about? Can someone point me to a neutral article?
I read yesterday that with the Wall Street / Bank bailouts, the taxpayers already made $10B over and above the amount owed, and stand to make $20B when all is said and done.
GM hasn’t come close…Why no protests there?
I don’t think I’ve seen any article that really clarifies anything on it. I personally think it’s a general frustration on just about corporate (specifically finance/banks) control of everything from our economic destiny to political elections. It’s so broadly integrated in to our current system that it’s hard to pick one or two areas to focus on, which is why it seems so disjointed. Plus there are plenty of people who don’t really have a good cause and are just there for who knows what. Like the protesters in the movie PCU.
As for protesting GM…that would involve going to DETROIT. Who wants to go there? Case closed.
They want free puppies, unicorns and handouts!
What they “want” requires work, therefore, that is just big an obstacle for them to overcome, so they are protesting.
I just read the few articles I could find and basically they state that they really don’t have a goal…
after looking at some of them, i dont think they really want to work.
the same question What do they want? could be levied against the Tea Partiers as well - - as both groups are all over the place . . .
It’s interesting to me how the press is treating these two protest groups differently, for example, both groups are against the Bailouts and have voiced against corporate greed, yet the Tea Partiers are patriots and the 99%ers are anti-capitalists
. . . and as far as what they want, can anyone please tell me what the Republican Party wants, or the Democrats, or the Tea Partiers - - everyone is all over the map.
Agreed.
What’s this all really about?
It’s “About” the same thing that they are rioting over in Greece, UK about. Times suck. We are seeing a correction and people don’t like when their “Stuff” is taken away. When this happens it’s difficult for most people to accept that A) it’s their own fault B) there’s nothing they can do about it C) this is how things might be from now on D) it won’t get better unless they do something about it E) some combination of A thru D.
The general human response is “Hey I did everything right and now someone is doing something to me. This is not my fault”.
The protests seem disjointed because they are. The reasons and causes for the protestors read a little bit like the reasons and causes for some of the advertisement on TV for lawyers suing because of “Damages” caused by some drug. “If you’ve taken XXXX drug in the last 30 years and have suffered from headache, diarrhea, constipation, gas, happiness, sadness, great health, loss of income, life or death…you may be eligible for a settlement from YYYY drug company”
In the above case drug companies are an easy target because A) we’ve demonized them and B) They are big and effect everyone C) most people don’t understand how they work and D) sadly in some cases they HAVE done things that they should be sued for. The same applies to wall street the banks and just about any “Large” institution.
To answer the GM question, I think understanding GM is pretty easy, they make cars, people relate to that. People buy cars, people understand how they are connected to GM. Banks, Wall street even government on many levels is far more nebulous and difficult to connect to your everyday life.
~Matt
~Matt
it’s more than just a ‘correction’, special interest groups have bought political power and economic privileges and the 99%ers demand that this comes to an end. Top that off with a dysfunctional government . . .
Anne Coulter:
“No one knows what the Wall Street protesters want – as is typical of mobs. They say they want Obama re-elected, but claim to hate “Wall Street.” You know, the same Wall Street that gave its largest campaign donation in history to Obama, who, in turn, bailed out the banks and made Goldman Sachs the fourth branch of government.”
Can any moonbat please refute what she states above, thanks.
As for protesting GM…that would involve going to DETROIT. Who wants to go there? Case closed.
October 21st, there will be a protest at the Train Station in Detroit.
There is a problem with that, it’s been abandoned since 1988. How can you “occupy” something abandoned? You’re not protesting anymore, you are squatting.
Supposedly these are their “demands”:
“1.)They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.
2.)They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give CEO’s exorbitant bonuses.
3.)They have perpetuated gender inequality and discrimination in the workplace.
4.)They have poisoned the food supply, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.
5.)They have continuously sought to end the rights of workers to negotiate their pay and make complaints about the safety of their workplace.
6.)They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.
7.)They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.
8.)They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.
9.)They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.
10.)They have sold our privacy as a commodity.
11.)They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press.
12.)They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.
13.)They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.
14.)They have donated large sums of money to politicians supposed to be regulating them.
15.)They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.
16.)They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantive profit.
17.)They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty book keeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.
18.)They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.
19.)They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad.
20.)They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.
21.)They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts.
22.)They have participated in a directly racist action by accepting the contract from the State of Georgia to murder Troy Davis.”
it’s more than just a ‘correction’, special interest groups have bought political power and economic privileges and the 99%ers demand that this comes to an end. Top that off with a dysfunctional government . . .
When I say people have a hard time accepting it’s their fault I speak in a very global sense. We have asked for and created the system we are currently living under thru MANY different approaches and demands, many of which these individuals protesting are actually asking for MORE of.** **
If nothing else this group** IS a special interest group. **If they have an effect, get what they want, which I’m not sure they know what that is, they have done nothing more than what lobbyist and other special interest groups do on a daily basis. They just happen to be doing it on national TV rather than in hallway, lobby or meeting room.
~Matt
the protest group does not support Obama - I saw plenty of anti current administration signs in the group
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For Christ’s sake, that just describes our government…
The interesting part about the protest is that it was originally supposed to be a rally against corporations (Wall Street firms) giving money to the politicians. Here is the original notice for the protest: http://www.adbusters.org/blogs/adbusters-blog/occupywallstreet.html I thought the notion that they wanted to go “a step beyond the Tea Party movement” was particularly amusing given the direction it has actually taken.
Also amusing is the fact that they are now aligned with big unions and MoveOn.org. Unions are one of the politicians biggest monetary contributors as are the Wall Street banks.
the protest group does not support Obama - I saw plenty of anti current administration signs in the group
That was true of the early protesters, but not now.
You’ll notice that the media didn’t fucking touch this story for weeks, even though the size of the events were just as large as widespread as they are now.
It wasn’t until the Obama machine saw the opportunity to hijack the movement, that the media went apeshit covering it.
Not sure what they want…but what most of them appear to need is a shower!
A local radio got one of the protesters here on the phone.
Basically the guy said he didn’t like the fact that 99% of the worlds wealth is held by 1% of the population that spends it on things like big houses and yachts instead of creating jobs and giving to charity. He also stated he didn’t want corporations “buying” elections.
When asked about basically a flat tax he agreed to it. When asked if he knew that labor unions where the biggest contributor to elections in the recent past he had no clue but was also willing to concede that it was a problem.
What it seems like those who are showing up that are not part of a socialist party (at least here in Chicago there is a real socialist party presents in this crowd) or labor union really are just the ignorant students that have no idea what is actually happening or how our economy works.
The interesting part about the protest is that it was originally supposed to be a rally against corporations (Wall Street firms) giving money to the politicians. Here is the original notice for the protest: http://www.adbusters.org/...ccupywallstreet.html I thought the notion that they wanted to go “a step beyond the Tea Party movement” was particularly amusing given the direction it has actually taken.
Also amusing is the fact that they are now aligned with big unions and MoveOn.org. Unions are one of the politicians biggest monetary contributors as are the Wall Street banks.
Van Jones is trying to leverage the original movement into “something 10x larger than the tea party.”
This is why all these Dems are coming out of the wood work pledging support for the “movement.”
It won’t work though because this is now just another marxist movement , driven by a bunch of leftist moonbat Obama ballwashers, and backed by a dwindling and impotent union movement.